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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Loans are not guaranteed in the Constitution.
    You still have to show an ID to get one.
    You have to show an ID to get beer or cigarettes.
    you have to show an ID for millions of things that you do

    so why is one of the most important institutions in this country not protected by the same thing?
    every fraudulent ballot negates a valid vote cast.

    I see no problem in having to show an ID to vote.

    Yep you have the right to vote that doesn't mean you don't have to prove who you are to do it.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    ID is required for loans.

    There is nothing wrong with having to prove your a citizen and who you are to vote.
    Yes, we have to show IDs for lucre based transactions. Is that what you want for the Socialism of our from of democracy?

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Proving that one is a citizen of Kansas could be somewhat embarrassing.

    Get ready for long slow voter lines.

    We had our first TX, show your proof of citizenship last election. I had to stand in a very slow moving line for an hour and a half.

    Reap what you sow.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Do you believe only citizens should vote?

    If you don't, why should foreigners be able to vote in our elections?

    If you do, should people prove they are eligible? How?
    Well, now what's proof of citizenship? You can have a driver license or photo ID without being a citizen.

    Do I need to carry a copy of a birth certificate in my pocket too? How will they know it's a true copy and not a doctored pdf (as was claimed about Obama's)? Proof of citizenship is a big step up from voter ID. Who determines valid proof of citizenship?


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Any Person residing in a State is considered a citizen of that State, simply Because, Immigration has not been a States' right since 1808.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Proving that one is a citizen of Kansas could be somewhat embarrassing.

    Get ready for long slow voter lines.

    We had our first TX, show your proof of citizenship last election. I had to stand in a very slow moving line for an hour and a half.

    Reap what you sow.

    What is a citizen of a state anyway? Do I need to be naturalized if I live in a different state than the one I was born in?


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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    ID is required for loans.

    There is nothing wrong with having to prove your a citizen and who you are to vote.
    ID is one thing, citizenship is different. You can be a resident alien and have a valid drivers license. In other words, you don't have to be a citizen to have ID.


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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Video @: [/FONT][/COLOR]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mr5t8K-uvQ

    Damnit This is going to open the door for voter suppression. Here in KS we have over 15,000 people having their right to vote held up by the Secretary of State now this is just going to spread. Essentially its trying to solve a problem, where there is no problem. Its being used as a political tool by the GOP.
    Wouldn't the fact you note there are over 15,000 questioned registrations just in Kansas indicate that there actually is a problem? I can't imagine that it would be terribly hard to prove you're a citizen unless A) you're not a citizen or B) you're too lazy to acquire the proof if you don't already have it, in which case you're probably too lazy to know what you're voting for or about and simply being led to the polls by those who want to use your vote.
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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    I have never quite understand why it's okay for the government to force people to provide an ID when buying alcohol, buying cigarettes, buying medical marijuana, enrolling your children in public school, or buying over the counter medication but it's not okay to require an ID to vote.
    To be fair, there is a difference between providing ID and providing proof of citizenship - I'm pretty sure you don't need to be a citizen to do any of the things you noted above - in those cases, you're just proving age and/or residence.
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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Loans are not guaranteed in the Constitution.
    Correct.

    Yet, funny how some don't complain to show id for trivial items, but when it comes to voting, heck one should not have to prove they are who they say they are.
    Got it.

    Let me ask you. If you already have an id what is the issue to show it when you vote?

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