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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    do you mean the right to vote today..in 2014?
    The Right to vote is not explicitly stated in the Constitution only that it cannot be denied on account of race or gender. This would imply that the determination of the Right to vote is up to the States and is shown where they determine when people living in the State can actually vote some require a residence of a few weeks others require up to six months.
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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I'm ignorant because I don't believe the same as you?
    No its because you just called the DNC socialist..


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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    The Right to vote is not explicitly stated in the Constitution only that it cannot be denied on account of race or gender. This would imply that the determination of the Right to vote is up to the States and is shown where they determine when people living in the State can actually vote some require a residence of a few weeks others require up to six months.
    It is true that the right to vote existed in forms determined by the states prior to the signing of the US Constitution. The right to vote predates the constitution like the right to self defense and marriage. Both of which are not enumerated in the constitution, but are accepted as rights.

    The 14th,15th and the 19th amendments are more that voting rights based on race and gender. The 15th established the right to vote for former african slaves and the 14th established that all the equal protection of the law...

    The 14th amendment should have been sufficient to afford women the right to vote, and would today, but it took the 19th to do so.

    Today the states can pass restrictions on voting, but can not deny anyone the right to vote without due process of the law. 5th amendment.

    So even though the right to vote is not enumerated in the constitution...the 9th, 14th, 15th, 19th, and 5th confirm that right today.









    it aslo affords all right voting included to All citizens under the jurisdiction of the US.


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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No its because you just called the DNC socialist..
    Same answer you have given before and just as wrong. The traitor rats (or should it be Demonrats) are socialist because they act like socialist. They place the importance of "society" above the importance of individual rights and freedoms, that alone would by any definition, but a very narrow-minded individuals, be socialism. They seek wealth distribution, taking away from the earners and creators and giving to the lazy and stupid. Through taxes, regulation and wage mandates, they seek to control the economy and to "equalize" distribution. Again, by any definition but a very narrow-minded one, is socialism. They claim individuals have a "right" to the production and earnings of others, thus claiming slave rights over the productive. Again, except by a very narrow-minded definition, socialism.

    What kind of person would act on and believe in such a narrow-minded definition? True, my definitions and classification are not within the scope of what you believe, but then again, other self-proclaimed socialist wouldn't fit into your very narrow definition either.

    Were you not the one that once claimed that Marx had nothing to do with socialism?
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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Same answer you have given before and just as wrong. The traitor rats (or should it be Demonrats) are socialist because they act like socialist. They place the importance of "society" above the importance of individual rights and freedoms, that alone would by any definition, but a very narrow-minded individuals, be socialism. They seek wealth distribution, taking away from the earners and creators and giving to the lazy and stupid. Through taxes, regulation and wage mandates, they seek to control the economy and to "equalize" distribution. Again, by any definition but a very narrow-minded one, is socialism. They claim individuals have a "right" to the production and earnings of others, thus claiming slave rights over the productive. Again, except by a very narrow-minded definition, socialism.

    What kind of person would act on and believe in such a narrow-minded definition? True, my definitions and classification are not within the scope of what you believe, but then again, other self-proclaimed socialist wouldn't fit into your very narrow definition either.

    And yet you give the same answer every time. Not having this pointless debate again when you cannot fundamentally understand a basic political philosophy definition


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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    And yet you give the same answer every time. Not having this pointless debate again when you cannot fundamentally understand a basic political philosophy definition
    Where do you get the concept that "fox news" told me so? Has fox news ever called the traitor rats socialist? If so, I am unaware of it. Of course I don't get fox news on TV and never read the opinion pieces, just basic news, so I wouldn't know.

    Basic political philosophy huh? Pro-society, socialist (notice the very distinct similarity and base root of the names), Pro-Individual, Individualist. How much more basic can you get?
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    are you smarter then the founders?

    because the made the clauses declaratory and restrictive to congress.
    How does your view account for the line of reasoning advanced in our declaration of independence?

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