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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    so let me ask this simple question........and if i get a yes...i will apologize for my error.
    did i miss quote you?
    You never quoted me?
    i quoted you in post #94

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    slaves were not considered citizens, they had no rights at all, 13th freed them ,the 14th amendment, ...which was originaly intended only for slaves, stated if they were born here or naturalized here, they are u.s. citizens and citizens of the state they are in.

    since they are considered free citizens, all rights now apply to them....no amendment to the constitution can grant a right, only the court can recognize a right, and that is what they did, the amendments to the constitution, state that the right to vote cannot be denied, because of race, sex.

    no where in the constitution do you see a granting or giving of rights...government can give a privilege...but not a right.

    the constitution grants powers to the federal government, it does not grant rights to people, it recognizes rights.......the bill of rights are not rights.......they are restrictions on government.
    Why do you believe the right of the people to not be infringed is not a right?

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Video @: [/FONT][/COLOR]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mr5t8K-uvQ

    Damnit This is going to open the door for voter suppression. Here in KS we have over 15,000 people having their right to vote held up by the Secretary of State now this is just going to spread. Essentially its trying to solve a problem, where there is no problem. Its being used as a political tool by the GOP.
    Relax. I'm sure your fellow socialist running the DNC will find other ways to rig the system. Why, I bet they are even consulting with experts from Venezuela and North Korea already.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Why do you believe the right of the people to not be infringed is not a right?
    i stated the rights recognized by the constitution, including those which fall under the 9th....are not to be infringed, because a restriction has been placed on government by the constitution to prevent them from doing so.

    "congress shall make no law"

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Recognizing that right accomplishes the same thing.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Recognizing that right accomplishes the same thing.
    are you smarter then the founders?

    because the made the clauses declaratory and restrictive to congress.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Relax. I'm sure your fellow socialist running the DNC will find other ways to rig the system. Why, I bet they are even consulting with experts from Venezuela and North Korea already.

    Your ignorance of political theory is hilarious and also scary.


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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Your ignorance of political theory is hilarious and also scary.
    I'm ignorant because I don't believe the same as you? And what is the record of success for socialism? Not too long ago you were praising Venezuela for being such a paragon of socialism, how's that working out today? You preach and support a change to socialism here, but stay here instead of moving to a socialist country because you like our standard of living and the opportunities it affords. Not much an example for living what you preach, are you?
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Loans are not guaranteed in the Constitution.
    Neither is voting when it comes to that.
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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Neither is voting when it comes to that.
    do you mean the right to vote today..in 2014?


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