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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You're not required to detail your residence of birth on income tax filings in the US? You're telling me that illegal aliens in the US file income tax returns and yet by some accounts there are anywhere between 10 and 20 million illegal aliens "hiding in the shadows" in the US. Maybe the first order of business for immigration reform would be for the IRS to go after all those illegal alien income tax filers and report them to law enforcement.
    You seem surprised at the dichotomy of America.


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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    You seem surprised at the dichotomy of America.
    Perhaps so, or maybe just saddened.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You're not required to detail your residence of birth on income tax filings in the US? You're telling me that illegal aliens in the US file income tax returns and yet by some accounts there are anywhere between 10 and 20 million illegal aliens "hiding in the shadows" in the US. Maybe the first order of business for immigration reform would be for the IRS to go after all those illegal alien income tax filers and report them to law enforcement.
    Mexicans were imported specifically to destroy the unique American culture and that Liberal decreed status exempts them from enforcement of any sort of ethical standards or laws that apply to Americans. So many of them work for untraceable cash that they send home to Mexico that this has become Mexico's second largest source of revenue.

    The absolute best thing the Canadians could do would be to build an enormous blockade at the Canadian Southern border terminus of the much vaunted prospective Mexico-Canada freeway. Otherwise, you will experience the 3rd world devastation that has overtaken America. Do not accept the fate that the Liberal elitists have planned for your country.
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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Loans are not guaranteed in the Constitution.

    neither is the "right" to vote........."please" read the amendments to the constitution carefully before you tell me it is.

    voting by the founders was a privilege based on property and taxes.

    the premise of it being a privilege was, that if people with no stake in america were allowed to vote, they would use their voting power to take from those who have more then they do.

    the USSC recognized voting as a right.....but it is not a right enumerated by the constitution.
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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Mexicans were imported specifically to destroy the unique American culture and that exempts them from enforcement of any sort of ethical standards or laws that apply to Americans.

    The absolute best thing the Canadians could do would be to build an enormous blockade at the Canadian Southern border terminus of the much vaunted prospective Mexico-Canada freeway. Otherwise, you will experience the 3rd world devastation that has overtaken America. Do not accept what is planned for your country.
    Actually, we have programs for migrant workers, many from Mexico and other Latin American countries, and we welcome upwards of 250,000 new immigrants from all over the world every year - the equivalent of 2.5 million in the US, if you ever got close to our numbers. Still, we have lots of problems with people trying to scam their way in - usually from the Caribbean or Eastern Europe - Romas have been a big problem - but not too many enter the US illegally so they can travel through on their way to Canada. But who knows - too many more years of the Obama economy and they might start heading up here.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    A welfare-State should be making money from foreign labor instead of potentially waging any costly wars on illegals.

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    neither is the "right" to vote........."please" read the amendments to the constitution carefully before you tell me it is.

    voting by the founders was a privilege based on property and taxes.

    the premise of it being a privilege was, that if people with no stake in america were allowed to vote, they would use their voting power to take from those who have more then they do.

    the USSC recognized voting as a right.....but it is not a right enumerated by the constitution.
    You assumed that I believed that the right to vote existed for all Americans at the signing. I, like you, know that there have been amendments added to the Constitution that NOW confirm every citizen the right to vote.

    Caveats to voting exist...but that is irrelevant to the context in which I told you that "loans" were never a constitutionally protected right...were they?

    Lets not over look the context of my statement.


    the USSC recognized voting as a right.....but it is not a right enumerated by the constitution.
    This statement is wholy incorrect. If the right for former African slaves were afforded citizenship, they were also afforded the right to vote as citizens of the US. That is also beared out the case when women were afforded that same right by amendment.

    How could two constitutional amendments afford African Americans and women the right to vote...and the right to vote not apply to all other Americans.

    Sometimes reading the Constitution is not enough...one must also know how to apply it.
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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    You assumed that I believed that the right to vote existed for all Americans at the signing. I, like you, know that there have been amendment add to the Cosntitution that NOW confirm every citizen the right to vote.

    Caveats to voting exist...but that is irrelevant to the context in which I told you that "loans" were never a constitutionally protected right...were they?

    Lets not over look the context of my statement.
    so let me ask this simple question........and if i get a yes...i will apologize for my error.

    did i miss quote you?

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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    [QUOTE=ernst barkmann;1063074265]so let me ask this simple question........and if i get a yes...i will apologize for my error.

    did i miss quote you?[/
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    You never quoted me?


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    Re: Kansas and Arizona win voter proof-of-citizenship ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post




    This statement is wholy incorrect. If the right for former African slaves were afforded citizenship, they were also afforded the right to vote as citizens of the US. That is also beared out the case when women were afforded that same right by amendment.

    How could two constitutional amendments afford African Americans and women the right to vote...and the right to vote not apply to all other Americans.

    Sometimes reading the Constitution is not enough...one must also know how to apply it.
    slaves were not considered citizens, they had no rights at all, 13th freed them ,the 14th amendment, ...which was originaly intended only for slaves, stated if they were born here or naturalized here, they are u.s. citizens and citizens of the state they are in.

    since they are considered free citizens, all rights now apply to them....no amendment to the constitution can grant a right, only the court can recognize a right, and that is what they did, the amendments to the constitution, state that the right to vote cannot be denied, because of race, sex.

    no where in the constitution do you see a granting or giving of rights...government can give a privilege...but not a right.

    the constitution grants powers to the federal government, it does not grant rights to people, it recognizes rights.......the bill of rights are not rights.......they are restrictions on government.
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