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    Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Obama rules out Military excursions into the Ukraine. This doesn't mean he wont send our Military to participate in exercises in and around the Ukraine. Does any think Diplomacy will work in this situation with Russia. Obama vows to bring more Sanctions. Thinking this will make it hurt economically. What do you think this message means to Putin and Russia? What say ye?



    President Barack Obama ruled out U.S. military involvement in Ukraine on Wednesday, emphasizing diplomacy in the U.S. standoff with Russia over Crimea.

    "We are not going to be getting into a military excursion in Ukraine," Obama told KNSD, San Diego's NBC affiliate, in an interview.



    "We need do not need to trigger an actual war with Russia," he told KSDK, a St. Louis station owned by Gannett in a separate interview.

    Obama, who imposed sanctions on 11 Russian and Ukrainian officials on Monday, said the United States will push diplomatic efforts to bring pressure on Russia to loosen its grip on the Crimea region of southern Ukraine.

    "There is a better path, but I think even the Ukrainians would acknowledge that for us to engage Russia militarily would not be appropriate and would not be good for Ukraine either," Obama told KNSD......snip~

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    I dont think we should go to war with Russia. Even thought it is Obama and everything he does in wrong, even the right doesnt beleive a war with Russia is a good idea. Do they?
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Obama rules out Military excursions into the Ukraine. This doesn't mean he wont send our Military to participate in exercises in and around the Ukraine. Does any think Diplomacy will work in this situation with Russia. Obama vows to bring more Sanctions. Thinking this will make it hurt economically. What do you think this message means to Putin and Russia? What say ye?



    President Barack Obama ruled out U.S. military involvement in Ukraine on Wednesday, emphasizing diplomacy in the U.S. standoff with Russia over Crimea.

    "We are not going to be getting into a military excursion in Ukraine," Obama told KNSD, San Diego's NBC affiliate, in an interview.



    "We need do not need to trigger an actual war with Russia," he told KSDK, a St. Louis station owned by Gannett in a separate interview.

    Obama, who imposed sanctions on 11 Russian and Ukrainian officials on Monday, said the United States will push diplomatic efforts to bring pressure on Russia to loosen its grip on the Crimea region of southern Ukraine.

    "There is a better path, but I think even the Ukrainians would acknowledge that for us to engage Russia militarily would not be appropriate and would not be good for Ukraine either," Obama told KNSD......snip~

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-rules-mi...W4tVVM-;_ylv=3
    I'm with Obama on this one - this is a far superior strategy to creating red lines and then when they're crossed skipping back a few paces and declaring a new red line. Much better to forget about red lines and declare defeat right from day one.

    More interesting will be to see Obama's posture should Russian advancement threaten the sovereignty of NATO members.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Why would anyone think we should get involved militarily?
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm with Obama on this one - this is a far superior strategy to creating red lines and then when they're crossed skipping back a few paces and declaring a new red line. Much better to forget about red lines and declare defeat right from day one.

    More interesting will be to see Obama's posture should Russian advancement threaten the sovereignty of NATO members.

    Mornin' CJ. Yeah I agree in order for the Diplomacy to work they will have to stop threatening or as you say drawing lines in the sand. Btw did ya see the Thread I threw up with Putin now being concerned about Estonian Speaking Russians in Estonia. That was their response to Samantha Powers in the UN getting up and walking out on them.

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I dont think we should go to war with Russia. Even thought it is Obama and everything he does in wrong, even the right doesnt beleive a war with Russia is a good idea. Do they?
    I always find it amusing to watch Republicans talk about how badly Obama is handling it...and then saying they wouldn't do anything substantially different.

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I dont think we should go to war with Russia. Even thought it is Obama and everything he does in wrong, even the right doesnt beleive a war with Russia is a good idea. Do they?
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm with Obama on this one - this is a far superior strategy to creating red lines and then when they're crossed skipping back a few paces and declaring a new red line. Much better to forget about red lines and declare defeat right from day one.

    More interesting will be to see Obama's posture should Russian advancement threaten the sovereignty of NATO members.
    Apparently they do think that, mak
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I dont think we should go to war with Russia. Even thought it is Obama and everything he does in wrong, even the right doesnt beleive a war with Russia is a good idea. Do they?
    Yeah Mak.....I think he is Right on this one and not going to war with Russia. Yeah most of the Right is against going to war with Russia. Can't speak for the Neo Cons tho.

    So now that we are past the basics of War 101 and the 2 Powers that be getting into it. That leaves Diplomacy.....which again do you think this will work with Putin and Russia? Do you think that the more harder economic sanctions that actually can do something. That Obama will pull that trigger? Are you even aware of what those Sanctions would be and what the ramifications are?

    Or are you just quibbling about How All the bad people are just out to and have it in for Obama and that you need to show that support even if......that's even if he makes the worst mistakes possible. That even if he lied directly to your face. You would smile and like that.....huh? Shrug ya shoulders and tell him how he is such a likable guy, huh?

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I dont think we should go to war with Russia. Even thought it is Obama and everything he does in wrong, even the right doesnt beleive a war with Russia is a good idea. Do they?
    Of course it's not a good idea, but, you don't tell the Russians that military force is, flat out, not an option. That's going to encourage then.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Obama rules out Military excursions into the Ukraine. This doesn't mean he wont send our Military to participate in exercises in and around the Ukraine. Does any think Diplomacy will work in this situation with Russia. Obama vows to bring more Sanctions. Thinking this will make it hurt economically. What do you think this message means to Putin and Russia? What say ye?



    President Barack Obama ruled out U.S. military involvement in Ukraine on Wednesday, emphasizing diplomacy in the U.S. standoff with Russia over Crimea.

    "We are not going to be getting into a military excursion in Ukraine," Obama told KNSD, San Diego's NBC affiliate, in an interview.



    "We need do not need to trigger an actual war with Russia," he told KSDK, a St. Louis station owned by Gannett in a separate interview.

    Obama, who imposed sanctions on 11 Russian and Ukrainian officials on Monday, said the United States will push diplomatic efforts to bring pressure on Russia to loosen its grip on the Crimea region of southern Ukraine.

    "There is a better path, but I think even the Ukrainians would acknowledge that for us to engage Russia militarily would not be appropriate and would not be good for Ukraine either," Obama told KNSD......snip~

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-rules-mi...W4tVVM-;_ylv=3

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