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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Right? And?
    That renders your 1930's fear mongering pointless.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    It is notable that Obama stated there would be no USA troops in Ukraine, not just Crimea.

    His announcement is worldwide notice that Russia has Obama's open permission to militarily take any more of the Ukraine that Putin wants. It now appears to be the open policy of the USA that Russia may use it's military to recapture and re-subjugate any forum Eastern USSR block countries.

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Unless I missed it, everyone that can do something has stated in no uncertain terms that they're NOT going to do anything.
    Sounds about right.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Unless I missed it, everyone that can do something has stated in no uncertain terms that they're NOT going to do anything.
    Putin understand that. Anything he wants is his for the taking. He can endlessly feed his ego on the pains of abandoned peoples and countries. He is the current ruler of the world.

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I dont think we should go to war with Russia. Even thought it is Obama and everything he does in wrong, even the right doesnt beleive a war with Russia is a good idea. Do they?
    If Obama says it's a bad idea, then the self described conservatives will be for it.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And assuring the Russians that no matter what they do, we're not going to lift a finger?

    That's been done in the past and millions of people died as a result.
    What finger do you want to lift this time apdst? The usual? Nothing short of FORCE will stop Russia now. If we were worried about that, perhaps Mrs. Nuland shouldn't have been working behind the scenes to install a pro-US/West government, and left well enough alone for Ukraine to accept the better deal they were being offered from Russia!
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Smart move, we don't need to be triggering an actual war with Russia.
    Mornin' Monte. Yeah.....I think so to. Although I doubt McCain is to happy about it. Still I wouldn't give the Ukrainians anymore money and I definitely wouldn't share any of our tech with them. As no doubt it will fall into Russian hands immediately.


    Although like I started off with.....I am sure we will be involved in any exercises called upon by NATO members. We do have to honor the NATO commitment.

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Of course he's right ... along those lines I'm surprised every mom & pop store doesn't post a sign that says ...

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    I like the sign. My view on this one is a bit more like the police refusing to respond to a call that is not within their jurisdiction. I don't even think there should be sanctions, whatever that really means in this context. Leave it to the UN and NATO. To me this just looks like a lot of talk intended to keep us from talking about things that matter here.

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It is notable that Obama stated there would be no USA troops in Ukraine, not just Crimea.

    His announcement is worldwide notice that Russia has Obama's open permission to militarily take any more of the Ukraine that Putin wants. It now appears to be the open policy of the USA that Russia may use it's military to recapture and re-subjugate any forum Eastern USSR block countries.
    And you'd be in favor of Obama putting troops in Ukraine, troops that would certainly clash with Russian troops, and then it would be on. FYI, we wouldn't be pushing Putin around like the weak sickly kids in class that we usually puff our chest out and take on like Hussein, Gaddafi, etc.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    That renders your 1930's fear mongering pointless.
    It is post WWIII "fear mongering," not 1930s. Russia is reassembling the USSR and the cold war is on - whether we like it or not - and we are losing.

    The invasion of Crimea possibly only because Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons signals a future massive nuclear weapons proliferation worldwide. So 1930s fears are irrelevant as Germany and Japan did not have nuclear weapons. Increasingly 3rd tier countries of unstable dictators and theocrats will.

    The long term result of not honoring the nuclear disarmament treaty with Ukraine will be a nuclear weapon going off in NYC - though that is a decade or 2 away. The attention span and planning for the future of this country now does not extend beyond the next emergency temporary budget kicking the can down the road.

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