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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, by the time it is our business, it could be a scenario where hundreds of thousands of people could die.

    Why not attempt to bluff Putin into backing down, before it gets to that point?

    It wasn't any of our business in the 1930's and 400,000 Americans died. Why would we knowingly go down that path, again?
    Bluff a willingness to start WWIII? That seems a bit extreme and not very credible.

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Of course he's right ... along those lines I'm surprised every mom & pop store doesn't post a sign that says ...


    Mornin' Bubba. It would appear Hillary agrees with him to. She gave a Speech yesterday on the matter. Even though she warned of Russian Aggression. She advocates a Two Pronged Approach. Naturally this calls for Financial and Technical Assistance?

    What do you think that term Technical Assistance Entails? Do you think we should give the Ukrainians anymore money that what BO offered, and do you think we should be giving them any of our tech?



    Clinton warns of further Russian aggression.....


    Other countries near Russia could also face aggression if President Vladimir Putin is allowed to get away with his actions in Ukraine, former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Tuesday.

    Clinton, a potential 2016 presidential contender, called Russia's move to annex Crimea illegal and a violation of international law.

    "If he's allowed to get away with that, I think you'll see a lot of other countries either directly facing Russian aggression or suborned with their political systems so that they are so intimidated that in effect they are transformed into vassals, not sovereign democracies," Clinton said at an event hosted by the Board of Trade of Metropolitan Montreal at the Palais des Congres.

    In response to a question about Ukraine, Clinton advocated a "two-track" approach toward resolving the crisis that included economic incentives and "standing up for our values."

    Along with sanctions against Russia, Clinton argued for increased financial and technical support for a democratic government in Kiev.....snip~

    http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-warns-...ipTiTMAbCH_wgt.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Bluff a willingness to start WWIII? That seems a bit extreme and not very credible.
    And assuring the Russians that no matter what they do, we're not going to lift a finger?

    That's been done in the past and millions of people died as a result.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Obama rules out Military excursions into the Ukraine. This doesn't mean he wont send our Military to participate in exercises in and around the Ukraine. Does any think Diplomacy will work in this situation with Russia. Obama vows to bring more Sanctions. Thinking this will make it hurt economically. What do you think this message means to Putin and Russia? What say ye?



    President Barack Obama ruled out U.S. military involvement in Ukraine on Wednesday, emphasizing diplomacy in the U.S. standoff with Russia over Crimea.

    "We are not going to be getting into a military excursion in Ukraine," Obama told KNSD, San Diego's NBC affiliate, in an interview.



    "We need do not need to trigger an actual war with Russia," he told KSDK, a St. Louis station owned by Gannett in a separate interview.

    Obama, who imposed sanctions on 11 Russian and Ukrainian officials on Monday, said the United States will push diplomatic efforts to bring pressure on Russia to loosen its grip on the Crimea region of southern Ukraine.

    "There is a better path, but I think even the Ukrainians would acknowledge that for us to engage Russia militarily would not be appropriate and would not be good for Ukraine either," Obama told KNSD......snip~

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-rules-mi...W4tVVM-;_ylv=3
    Smart move, we don't need to be triggering an actual war with Russia.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What's your point? Expand, please?
    NATO exists to ensure that the actions that led to WWII don't happen again.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I dont think we should go to war with Russia. Even thought it is Obama and everything he does in wrong, even the right doesnt beleive a war with Russia is a good idea. Do they?
    Probably true, with the notable exception of the hawks, who are daily telling us the things that Obama should be doing, which of course would lead to war, we have plenty of history to know that.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Bluff a willingness to start WWIII? That seems a bit extreme and not very credible.
    The fear of the left is crippling and cowardice. Incompetent foreign policy.

    For decades, the USA did tit-for-tat with the USSR during the Cold War, when the USSR was 3 times the power Russia is. But the left constantly keeps shouting "OMG WWIII!" in pure cowardice and incompetence.

    This is the definition of stupidity. Nuclear weapons are irrelevancies between the USA and Russia (which is again becoming the USSR for the White House flying the white flag of surrender.) Any threat of nuclear weapons by Russia is Russia holding a gun to its own head demanding to give them what they want or they will commit suicide. They know it. We know it.

    Talk of WWIII with Russia is absurd.

    If either Putin or Obama gave the command to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack all we would ever know is a news report that the one of them who did so had died in a freak accident or sudden heart attack. Neither the TRUE leadership of the USA or USSR would allow this to happen, nor would we ever know there was the attempt.

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin' CJ. Yeah I agree in order for the Diplomacy to work they will have to stop threatening or as you say drawing lines in the sand. Btw did ya see the Thread I threw up with Putin now being concerned about Estonian Speaking Russians in Estonia. That was their response to Samantha Powers in the UN getting up and walking out on them.
    Howdy MMC, yeah that was a good thread you put up too. What's the matter, SP in over her head?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    We'll see. Germany doesn't have the cash to really do much on it's own, it's either the EU nations comes together and the UK and US can back them up or nothing happens. Right now Germany is the primary leg holding up the chair that is the EU, economically anyway.
    Unless I missed it, everyone that can do something has stated in no uncertain terms that they're NOT going to do anything.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    NATO exists to ensure that the actions that led to WWII don't happen again.
    Right? And?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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