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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Until the EU steps up, we should primarily make smarmy comments about Russia taking over former USSR countries and otherwise, ignore it.

    EDIT: Just to be clear, Obama has my full support on this one. 1 attaboy to Barack.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course it's not a good idea, but, you don't tell the Russians that military force is, flat out, not an option. That's going to encourage then.
    So what? It's not our business.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post

    More interesting will be to see Obama's posture should Russian advancement threaten the sovereignty of NATO members.
    Nothing!...lol! I can't help but wonder if Obama isn't being complicit with Putin.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    So what? It's not our business.
    But, by the time it is our business, it could be a scenario where hundreds of thousands of people could die.

    Why not attempt to bluff Putin into backing down, before it gets to that point?

    It wasn't any of our business in the 1930's and 400,000 Americans died. Why would we knowingly go down that path, again?
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Until the EU steps up, we should primarily make smarmy comments about Russia taking over former USSR countries and otherwise, ignore it.

    EDIT: Just to be clear, Obama has my full support on this one. 1 attaboy to Barack.

    Heya Ockham .....the EU is stepping up Merkel has Spoken and even now has crushed a trade deal with the Russians. Course that littlke wording by the Russians about Estonia has quite a few concerned, even more.


    Now as we know how some think those sanctions against Putins people and theirs against ours are significant actions and Imply our intentions and all. Do you think Putins Propaganda Machine is going full tilt in the areas of the planet that have not weighed in on the matter in the UN?

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, by the time it is our business, it could be a scenario where hundreds of thousands of people could die.

    Why not attempt to bluff Putin into backing down, before it gets to that point?

    It wasn't any of our business in the 1930's and 400,000 Americans died. Why would we knowingly go down that path, again?
    NATO exists now.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    The most important thing for the President to do is to assure him that we concede that his military won another military victory. Assuring Putin he won't touch any of Putin's money apparently wasn't enough graveling at Russia's feet.

    To leave no doubt, it would wisest to fly a white flag over the White House. Probably Obama should go on another apology and bowing world tour to assure everyone we are no threat to anyone.

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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    NATO exists now.
    What's your point? Expand, please?
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    In Obama's opinion, it is critical to give Russia advance notice of all our military and foreign policy actions.

    Why doesn't he invite Russia to having a seat at the NSA, a staff position on the Joint Chief's of Staff and a wing of the Pentagon too?

    Obama had zero leadership experience in any leadership position for any domestic matter and not one second of any foreign or military policy prior to becoming President.

    I am confident that any grunt in basic training understands you never advise foreign military commanders what you may or may not be planning to do as contingencies. Setting aside ALL partisan issues entirely, President Obama is proving to be the most incompetent president this country ever had.

    America has had great presidents and piss poor presidents, but never one as incompetent - nor as laughed at worldwide. He literally is becoming a national and International laughing stock. The world's #1 clown.

    He may have lofty ideals, but I doubt he could assemble a child's bicycle. Doing anything actually tangible appears beyond his capabilities. I'm NOT gloating, this is tragic. I am literally coming to feel pity for him. I believe he would like to do the right thing -I really do - but he has NO clue what to do.

    Why doesn't he turn it over to Biden to be our national spokesman in this? At least Biden knows how to shake his fist and sneer.

    And then there is Kerry? He should be on Kremlin payroll.
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    Re: Obama Rules Out 'military excursion' in Ukraine.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Ockham .....the EU is stepping up Merkel has Spoken and even now has crushed a trade deal with the Russians. Course that littlke wording by the Russians about Estonia has quite a few concerned, even more.


    Now as we know how some think those sanctions against Putins people and theirs against ours are significant actions and Imply our intentions and all. Do you think Putins Propaganda Machine is going full tilt in the areas of the planet that have not weighed in on the matter in the UN?
    We'll see. Germany doesn't have the cash to really do much on it's own, it's either the EU nations comes together and the UK and US can back them up or nothing happens. Right now Germany is the primary leg holding up the chair that is the EU, economically anyway.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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