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    Re: Ukraine far right Svoboda attack TV chief and force to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by SayMyName View Post
    I have no doubt that the violence from the far right nationalists and neo-Nazis in Kiev and western Ukraine will only get worse in the months to come. The venom that they spew on the internet is frightening.
    It's funny how the corrupt Russian lapdog Ukrainian government kills protesters, Russia invades and has now killed one Ukrainian soldier in the name of protecting "ethnic Russians" and you seem most concerned by the Ukrainian far right group who so far has only invaded a TV station.
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    Re: Ukraine far right Svoboda attack TV chief and force to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Far right Svoboda thugs and pro-Ukraine politician storm office of TV chief and beat him over the head and forced him to write his own resignation because the state owned TV station broadcast Putin's speech on Crimea seccession.

    The irony is, the politician sits on the Freedom of Speech Parliamentary Committee......


    Read more: 'Sit down, you animal': Angry far-right politicians attack Ukraine TV chief | Mail Online


    US better be very careful who they support in Ukraine....or it will look like they're supporting far right nationalists and play right into Putin's hands which would make him look like the real defender of freedom and democracy.
    These are the kinds of criminals the people from the Crimea want to be free from. I guess these are the same kinds of idiots who advised/forced the new "government" (because it was hardly a democratic process by which it got created) to ban Russian as a language in the Ukraine.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Ukraine far right Svoboda attack TV chief and force to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It's funny how the corrupt Russian lapdog Ukrainian government kills protesters, Russia invades and has now killed one Ukrainian soldier in the name of protecting "ethnic Russians" and you seem most concerned by the Ukrainian far right group who so far has only invaded a TV station.
    The democratically elected "lapdog" government you mean. And if this is the kind of people the new regime associates with, do you blame Russian speaking Ukrainians for fearing for their rights in the "New and Improved" Ukraine in which they are no longer allowed to speak or teach Russian.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Ukraine far right Svoboda attack TV chief and force to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    The democratically elected "lapdog" government you mean.
    Mubarak and Gaddafi were elected as well, were you sorry to see them go?

    And if this is the kind of people the new regime associates with, do you blame Russian speaking Ukrainians for fearing for their rights in the "New and Improved" Ukraine in which they are no longer allowed to speak or teach Russian.
    This is ludicrous. The "Russian Speaking Ukrainians" associate with a Russian thug who poisons reporters, jails musicians, invades his neighbors in the name of ethnic protection, and kills Ukrainian soldiers. How about you take a half second to actually look at this rationally? How about you look at the history of Russian rule over Ukraine and open your eyes to who really has reason for concern. The only reason there is a Russian majority in Eastern Ukraine is because the Soviets murdered the Ukrainians there.

    The Russian Speaking Eastern Ukraine is just lucky that the Western Ukrainians are actually civilized and haven't paralleled the PLO in militant demands for their land back. The most the Western regions can muster in that direction is a few asshats who took over a TV station.
    Last edited by jmotivator; 03-20-14 at 11:18 AM.
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    Re: Ukraine far right Svoboda attack TV chief and force to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Great debate technique.

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    There's nothing in his post that addresses my remarks. Perhaps you see it thusly, I see it as a yammer mouth trying to avoid focusing on what was typed. Some enjoy unrelated yammering, since you do, why don't you just read it twice, once for you and once for me. I note you have no comments about his two long attempts to avoid the point. Did you read them? I think not.
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    Re: Ukraine far right Svoboda attack TV chief and force to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    There's nothing in his post that addresses my remarks.
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    I'm not reading past the first paragraph.
    Hmmmmmmm.
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    Re: Ukraine far right Svoboda attack TV chief and force to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Hmmmmmmm.
    Whatever you think dude, you can waste your time with folks determined to waylay the point you're making, I choose not to. And by all appearances in the past year, I see exactly ZERO evidence that I should be anything like you. Thank you very much. Now do you have a point in the thread or are you trying to derail it by discussing me? There are a couple of really meaty discussions about the awfulness of Summerwind in the Dungeon, I suggest you head down there if you're determined to focus on me and not the topic.
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    Re: Ukraine far right Svoboda attack TV chief and force to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Whatever you think dude, you can waste your time with folks determined to waylay the point you're making, I choose not to. And by all appearances in the past year, I see exactly ZERO evidence that I should be anything like you. Thank you very much. Now do you have a point in the thread or are you trying to derail it by discussing me? There are a couple of really meaty discussions about the awfulness of Summerwind in the Dungeon, I suggest you head down there if you're determined to focus on me and not the topic.
    I'm not reading past the first sentence. Get over yourself. Either show courtesy and respond to the entirety of a persons post if you feel compelled to respond or get used to having most of your effort ignored. To open a response to a person by stating you haven't read what they wrote and then go on to comment on what little you did read anyway is ignorant, dishonest and rude.
    Last edited by jmotivator; 03-20-14 at 02:46 PM.
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    Re: Ukraine far right Svoboda attack TV chief and force to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Mubarak and Gaddafi were elected as well, were you sorry to see them go?
    From what I've read here, it was mostly posters on the right who were sorry to see them go.

    This is ludicrous. The "Russian Speaking Ukrainians" associate with a Russian thug who poisons reporters, jails musicians, invades his neighbors in the name of ethnic protection, and kills Ukrainian soldiers. How about you take a half second to actually look at this rationally? How about you look at the history of Russian rule over Ukraine and open your eyes to who really has reason for concern. The only reason there is a Russian majority in Eastern Ukraine is because the Soviets murdered the Ukrainians there.

    The Russian Speaking Eastern Ukraine is just lucky that the Western Ukrainians are actually civilized and haven't paralleled the PLO in militant demands for their land back. The most the Western regions can muster in that direction is a few asshats who took over a TV station.
    The Russians in Ukraine were concerned about these "few asshats" getting into government and cleansing them from Ukraine. Which is pretty close to what you're advocating. The Soviets mostly murdered anybody regardless of ethnicity, and there are pockets of Russians all over the former USSR. My daughter's old gymnastics coach was a Russian from Kazakhstan (who's husband coached the USSR national team for a time). Their daughter in law, who does a lot of the business end there is a Russian from Ukraine. I almost wish I could hear her thoughts about this.

    At any rate, Crimea was never really populated by Ukrainians. Tatars, yes, and after them mostly Russians. It was only part of Ukraine because of Kruschev, and at the time transferring it to the Ukrainian SSR wasn't a big deal because everybody assumed that the USSR was permanent.


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    Re: Ukraine far right Svoboda attack TV chief and force to resign

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It's funny how the corrupt Russian lapdog Ukrainian government kills protesters, Russia invades and has now killed one Ukrainian soldier in the name of protecting "ethnic Russians" and you seem most concerned by the Ukrainian far right group who so far has only invaded a TV station.
    Well, since you put it that way. lol The far right rising so quickly and gaining seats in Ukraine parliament is a cause for concern by many EU countries who also have far right extemists gaining public popularity. The US has been aware of far right nationalism since the Orange revolution. They know all about Svoboda and Right Sector....and so does Putin. Putin is more concerned about far right because Russia has a bitter history with nazi's and Svoboda are Nazi sympathizers. So when the far right took over the government...Putin didn't hestitate to move to protect Russia's interests...the Black Sea Fleet Naval Base in Crimea and surrounding ethnic russian population. But to do that he had to block off Crimea in order to keep Svoboda and Right Sector thugs from sabotaging the gas and electric terminals at the borders and terrorizing the population on the peninsula. I would like to think the US would do the same for it's naval base(s) and ex pat population abroad if they were threatened by nazis. So how can I judge Russia for doing what I hope US would do?

    Russia and US used to be allies against the Nazi's....maybe they will again someday.
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