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Russia To Sanction U.S. Senators.....

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Putin is expected to release his retaliation list as early as Tuesday and while the final list is still being crafted, it will include top Obama administration officials and high profile U.S. senators, in an effort to roughly mirror the U.S. sanctions against Russian officials and lawmakers, according to diplomatic sources. At the top of the list in Congress is Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, who recently co-authored a resolution criticizing Russia’s invasion of Crimea.

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Durbin’s inclusion on Putin’s list would mirror Obama’s naming of Valentina Matvienko, the head of the upper chamber of the Russian Duma. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell are not expected to be on the Russian sanctions list.

Sen. John McCain, who traveled to Kiev last weekend to meet with Ukrainian leaders, told The Daily Beast that he expects to be on the list and is happy about it.

“You think I’m not going to be on it?” McCain said. “I would be honored to be on that list.”

McCain said he would not be impacted financially by being subject to a visa ban and asset freeze in the Russian Federation.

“I guess I’m going to have to try to withdraw my money from my secret account in St. Petersburg,” he joked.

Other names that could be on the Russian sanctions list, although not confirmed, include Sens. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and Bob Corker (R-TN), the leaders of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee who are leading the sanctions drive in the Senate, and Victoria Nuland, the Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, who has been heavily involved in working with the Ukrainian opposition that ousted the Yanokovich government.

One U.S. official who can rest easy is White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, who will not be on Putin’s sanctions list. Carney is rumored to be lobbying to replace former Ambassador Mike McFaul as the next U.S. Ambassador to Moscow, who will also not be on the list.....snip~

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-sanction-u-senators-200300209--politics.html


While Johnny Quest makes his joke about pulling money out of his secret account. Do you think Johnny here figured out that's what the Russians have been saying all along ever since we tried the very first one. Now What are they going to do in catching a Diplomat traveling on a travel ban? Did any think Diplomatic Immunity still didn't apply?

Yeah and Durbin.....not only put forth a resolution in the House. He has been running around and telling all that Putin is like Stalin and he will go after other Countries. Wonder How Dapper Dick feels about What Gorbachev said with his support for Putin.? What say ye.....for the Play we started with. Will it go round in circles?
 
This is like Putin saying; that if you sanction my countries billionaires, I spit on your Congress. It's literally almost childish, by both parties concerned.

The personal crap isn't professional, nor necessary. And it could lead to unintended consequences if they keep it up. It seems our immature Congress can't comment on other world leaders anymore, without it descending into "nah, nah you're a meanie tyrant and dictator who oppresses everyone". Like they're a bunch of saints.
 
This is like Putin saying; that if you sanction my countries billionaires, I spit on your Congress. It's literally almost childish, by both parties concerned.

The personal crap isn't professional, nor necessary. And it could lead to unintended consequences if they keep it up. It seems our immature Congress can't comment on other world leaders anymore, without it descending into "nah, nah you're a meanie tyrant and dictator who oppresses everyone". Like they're a bunch of saints.


Heya Grip.....yep and its like I said. What are they going to do to a Diplomat that is out traveling and they have a Ban. He still has his Immunity.

But we have known this coming. Plus now the Russians wont be as helpful with Syria or Iran.
 
Heya Grip.....yep and its like I said. What are they going to do to a Diplomat that is out traveling and they have a Ban. He still has his Immunity.

But we have known this coming. Plus now the Russians wont be as helpful with Syria or Iran.

Yeah, it was unavoidable that we'd have more open conflicts with another large nation, over geopolitical resources. The only reason we don't clash more with China is our reciprocal trading.
 
Yeah, it was unavoidable that we'd have more open conflicts with another large nation, over geopolitical resources. The only reason we don't clash more with China is our reciprocal trading.

Durbin is nothing but an Obama Yes man.....though this next time round he has a Republican challenger. That has money.....which Dick here. Has been making sure his hands have been in the Cookie jar. Especially Considering the DSCC already told the Dems Senators there is No money for this election cycle.

I have been keeping my eye out to see when the final list comes in.

Plus Putin just to play with McCain might not have him on there as I am sure he saw McCains remarks about Obama in the NY times.
 
Putin is expected to release his retaliation list as early as Tuesday and while the final list is still being crafted, it will include top Obama administration officials and high profile U.S. senators, in an effort to roughly mirror the U.S. sanctions against Russian officials and lawmakers, according to diplomatic sources. At the top of the list in Congress is Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, who recently co-authored a resolution criticizing Russia’s invasion of Crimea.

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Durbin’s inclusion on Putin’s list would mirror Obama’s naming of Valentina Matvienko, the head of the upper chamber of the Russian Duma. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell are not expected to be on the Russian sanctions list.

Sen. John McCain, who traveled to Kiev last weekend to meet with Ukrainian leaders, told The Daily Beast that he expects to be on the list and is happy about it.

“You think I’m not going to be on it?” McCain said. “I would be honored to be on that list.”

McCain said he would not be impacted financially by being subject to a visa ban and asset freeze in the Russian Federation.

“I guess I’m going to have to try to withdraw my money from my secret account in St. Petersburg,” he joked.

Other names that could be on the Russian sanctions list, although not confirmed, include Sens. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and Bob Corker (R-TN), the leaders of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee who are leading the sanctions drive in the Senate, and Victoria Nuland, the Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, who has been heavily involved in working with the Ukrainian opposition that ousted the Yanokovich government.

One U.S. official who can rest easy is White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, who will not be on Putin’s sanctions list. Carney is rumored to be lobbying to replace former Ambassador Mike McFaul as the next U.S. Ambassador to Moscow, who will also not be on the list.....snip~

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-sanction-u-senators-200300209--politics.html


While Johnny Quest makes his joke about pulling money out of his secret account. Do you think Johnny here figured out that's what the Russians have been saying all along ever since we tried the very first one. Now What are they going to do in catching a Diplomat traveling on a travel ban? Did any think Diplomatic Immunity still didn't apply?

Yeah and Durbin.....not only put forth a resolution in the House. He has been running around and telling all that Putin is like Stalin and he will go after other Countries. Wonder How Dapper Dick feels about What Gorbachev said with his support for Putin.? What say ye.....for the Play we started with. Will it go round in circles?



If my read of the Obama/Kerry show is accurate they did not realize that Putin would mirror exactly what the US is doing.

It is the same old "cold war' tactic from making cheap toasters to placing missiles, the USSR matched the US tag for tag. They put missiles in Cuba because Kennedy had put his in Turkey.

This is what the Obama administration has now created.

But wait, it will get one **** load more serious down the road. What Kerry doesn't realize is they were manipulated by Putin into this exact place.
 
I hope they sanction the Democrats.
 
Yeah, it was unavoidable that we'd have more open conflicts with another large nation, over geopolitical resources. The only reason we don't clash more with China is our reciprocal trading.



ONE reason there is not more open conflict with China is because they don't have the military resources. They do have a large standing army, but is deployed internally and in occupied countries. They have a small and outdated navy with one aircraft carrier that isn't working right and another in production.

Yet.

Besides, we have yet to see how China will assist its ally Russia in this time of need.....they do own a lot of US debt.
 
If my read of the Obama/Kerry show is accurate they did not realize that Putin would mirror exactly what the US is doing.

It is the same old "cold war' tactic from making cheap toasters to placing missiles, the USSR matched the US tag for tag. They put missiles in Cuba because Kennedy had put his in Turkey.

This is what the Obama administration has now created.

But wait, it will get one **** load more serious down the road. What Kerry doesn't realize is they were manipulated by Putin into this exact place.


Afternoon F&L. :2wave: Yeah I had mentioned that in another thread this morning. As I had brought up when Obama was mocking Putin. The ADHD kid in the back of the class. Now we see what the true reality looks like when it comes down to those two.

Obama winging it and trying to come with the off the cuff remarks. Wont impress Putin. Nor Intimidate him. They hd 3 phone calls with each other.....and while Putin Listened to Obama talk. I just wonder if those calls allowed them to see each other. As I wondered if Putin just put his end down until Obama was done talking.

Interesting to note the Russians aren't thinking of putting Boehner and McConnell on their list.
 
Putin is expected to release his retaliation list as early as Tuesday and while the final list is still being crafted, it will include top Obama administration officials and high profile U.S. senators, in an effort to roughly mirror the U.S. sanctions against Russian officials and lawmakers, according to diplomatic sources. At the top of the list in Congress is Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, who recently co-authored a resolution criticizing Russia’s invasion of Crimea.

This was foreseen thereby the sanctions were as weak.
 
But we have known this coming. Plus now the Russians wont be as helpful with Syria or Iran.

I do not think they ever intended to be helpful there to begin with.
 
Durbin is nothing but an Obama Yes man.....though this next time round he has a Republican challenger. That has money.....which Dick here. Has been making sure his hands have been in the Cookie jar. Especially Considering the DSCC already told the Dems Senators there is No money for this election cycle.

I have been keeping my eye out to see when the final list comes in.

Plus Putin just to play with McCain might not have him on there as I am sure he saw McCains remarks about Obama in the NY times.

Being ignored is even worse, making him feel irrelevant....lol

McCain is right about some things, like most people, but he's been a militant nut-bag since Vietnam.
 
ONE reason there is not more open conflict with China is because they don't have the military resources. They do have a large standing army, but is deployed internally and in occupied countries. They have a small and outdated navy with one aircraft carrier that isn't working right and another in production.

Yet.

Besides, we have yet to see how China will assist its ally Russia in this time of need.....they do own a lot of US debt.


Russia can obliterate the world with nukes, not likely. But China can start a market stampede by selling (dumping) our debt, using another currency for trade and cutting us off from buying goods. They could step up sales to Europe, Asia, India, South America and other countries to cover some of the losses. They're already supporting Iran for oil purposes and side with Russia on Syria, but I think that's as far as they'll go for now. The Japan row over the South China sea islands is another hot-point and Taiwan is dicey. Most large nations are opportunists in geopolitical strategics and look for a weakness or strength in another before cozying up.
 
At least Russian takeover of Crimea was a victory for gay rights there!

Oh, wait, homosexuality is legal in the Ukraine. It was in Crimea until last week too.

So let's all cheer the humanitarian Russians for militarily taking over Crimea, including now able to prosecute all LGTBs there!

Three cheers for Putin!!! Putting a stop to that damn gay rights crap going on in their own subjugated Eastern bloc countries.

Besides, that's "democratic" rule. An entire region of LGTBs were just made criminals and put under military rule of the born-again Christian Russia.
 
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Putin is expected to release his retaliation list as early as Tuesday and while the final list is still being crafted, it will include top Obama administration officials and high profile U.S. senators, in an effort to roughly mirror the U.S. sanctions against Russian officials and lawmakers, according to diplomatic sources. At the top of the list in Congress is Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, who recently co-authored a resolution criticizing Russia’s invasion of Crimea.

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Durbin’s inclusion on Putin’s list would mirror Obama’s naming of Valentina Matvienko, the head of the upper chamber of the Russian Duma. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell are not expected to be on the Russian sanctions list.

Sen. John McCain, who traveled to Kiev last weekend to meet with Ukrainian leaders, told The Daily Beast that he expects to be on the list and is happy about it.

“You think I’m not going to be on it?” McCain said. “I would be honored to be on that list.”

McCain said he would not be impacted financially by being subject to a visa ban and asset freeze in the Russian Federation.

“I guess I’m going to have to try to withdraw my money from my secret account in St. Petersburg,” he joked.

Other names that could be on the Russian sanctions list, although not confirmed, include Sens. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) and Bob Corker (R-TN), the leaders of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee who are leading the sanctions drive in the Senate, and Victoria Nuland, the Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, who has been heavily involved in working with the Ukrainian opposition that ousted the Yanokovich government.

One U.S. official who can rest easy is White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, who will not be on Putin’s sanctions list. Carney is rumored to be lobbying to replace former Ambassador Mike McFaul as the next U.S. Ambassador to Moscow, who will also not be on the list.....snip~

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-sanction-u-senators-200300209--politics.html


While Johnny Quest makes his joke about pulling money out of his secret account. Do you think Johnny here figured out that's what the Russians have been saying all along ever since we tried the very first one. Now What are they going to do in catching a Diplomat traveling on a travel ban? Did any think Diplomatic Immunity still didn't apply?

Yeah and Durbin.....not only put forth a resolution in the House. He has been running around and telling all that Putin is like Stalin and he will go after other Countries. Wonder How Dapper Dick feels about What Gorbachev said with his support for Putin.? What say ye.....for the Play we started with. Will it go round in circles?

I wonder how many US Congressmen have Russian bank accounts?
 
I wonder how many US Congressmen have Russian bank accounts?

Heya Iguana. :2wave: I did to.....then I thought waitaminute. How many Russian Diplomats have US bank accounts. Not to mention they can still go and just take our Coca Cola anytime they want. What do we get to take? :lol:
 
This is like Putin saying; that if you sanction my countries billionaires, I spit on your Congress. It's literally almost childish, by both parties concerned.

Except Putin doesn't have to spit directly on Congress. Remember US = plutocacy; if Putin spits on Congress' owner, i. e. Exxon, then he can make Congress do whatever he wants.
 
Putin: "If you don't stop interfering in Crimea, I'll ban your Senators from entering Russia."

Congress: "HA HA we don't give a !@#$"

Putin: "If you don't stop interfering in Crimea, I'll ban all Vodka and caviar exports to the US."

Congress: "HA HA we don't give a !@#$"

Putin: "If you don't stop interfering in Crimea, I'll give Iran S-400 missiles and we'll see how Israel copes with them."

Congress: "As we said before, the sanctions against Russia are wholly unjustified and must be cancelled immediately. Russia is a free and prosperous democracy, and Putin is a great man."
 
Except Putin doesn't have to spit directly on Congress. Remember US = plutocacy; if Putin spits on Congress' owner, i. e. Exxon, then he can make Congress do whatever he wants.

Putin's losing a deal in the Baltic Sea with Exxon and Shell, drilling for oil and gas. But he don't care because he's got the access and resources.
 
Putin: "If you don't stop interfering in Crimea, I'll ban your Senators from entering Russia."

Congress: "HA HA we don't give a !@#$"

Putin: "If you don't stop interfering in Crimea, I'll ban all Vodka and caviar exports to the US."

Congress: "HA HA we don't give a !@#$"

Putin: "If you don't stop interfering in Crimea, I'll give Iran S-400 missiles and we'll see how Israel copes with them."

Congress: "As we said before, the sanctions against Russia are wholly unjustified and must be cancelled immediately. Russia is a free and prosperous democracy, and Putin is a great man."

Our response should be to arm former Eastern Bloc and Southern Bloc countries with nuclear weapons - plus 100,000 sniper rifles - and we'll see how well Russia copes with them. Pull out of UN forces in Bosnia and Kosovo too.

Most specifically, give Ukraine a couple dozen nuclear bombs and delivery systems are our apology for not backing up our deal if they gave up theirs.

And Russia has more to fear from Iran having nuclear weapons than we do in the long run.

But it's all words. Russia getting Crimea was a deal already made with the USA and West before it happened.
 
Heya Grip.....yep and its like I said. What are they going to do to a Diplomat that is out traveling and they have a Ban. He still has his Immunity.

But we have known this coming. Plus now the Russians wont be as helpful with Syria or Iran.




They might cut off access to their vodka and stop providing rides to the space station.
 
Heya Grip.....yep and its like I said. What are they going to do to a Diplomat that is out traveling and they have a Ban. He still has his Immunity.

But we have known this coming. Plus now the Russians wont be as helpful with Syria or Iran.

We have no reason to care about Syria and there is no longer any deal to make with Iran - since it was just proven there is no such thing as any nuclear de-proliferation deal or treaty to make that isn't just a lie and trickery. Iran should pursue nuclear weapons ASAP unless they are just fools.

That is what Crimea just proved. Any country that doesn't not seek and keep nuclear weapons is failing in its national defense duty to its citizens.
 
Its all just diversionary noise. Russia would not have done this without USA consent.

The USA could stomp all over Russia and Russia knows it. Arm former USSR Eastern and Southern Bloc to the teeth, put the Iron curtain back up - this time without their captured Bloc countries, and shove Russia into being a minor 2nd tier country.

But why do that? Let Russia have Crimea and let Russia keep the Muslims in check there - plus now can extort submission of Muslims in Ukraine too.

Russia can no more use its nukes than we can use ours, so all that talk and threat is just nothing.

The USA, UK, Russia and China are dividing up the world between us. The only change is that China is now in the game.
 
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