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    Re: Russia To Sanction U.S. Senators.....

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You didnt say Putin at all; you said Russia.
    How many of your Vietnam brothers were killed with Russian/Soviet weapons?

    You trash Durbin for the same reason you trash Obama--purely political.

    That's Right I did say Russia.....but then that would include all those that make up the ruling government of Russia. Which those people do have Names.

    What does that bit about NAM and Soviet Weapons have to do with the Price of Tea in China?

    No.....I trash Durbin for what he says out of his mouth and for being nothing more than a Obama yes man. He use to be his own politician with his own ideas. Course that goes way back when he actually worked for a living. Now he is nothing more than an Obama ass kisser.

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    Re: Russia To Sanction U.S. Senators.....

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Get real Obama knows that it will have zilch effect. He's just tossing this cowboy swagger around to pacify the naive, gullible voters who don't like to think of their country as "weak."

    What's hilarious to the max is the inability of so many on the right to recognize that Obama is doing that, and isn't even trying to do anything.

    That's why they think O is weak--they assume, childishly, that he actually cares about this latest action by Putin and is doing his best, when he really doesn't. Weakness, FYI, is only exhibited when one wants to fight but can't, but not when one refuses to do so.
    First, I am real. That's why I have the ability to type. In general I think we are in agreement about Obama. He can't do anything to affect Russian policy and he knows it. The reason he can't do anything has nothing to do with the events of the last month, they have everything to do with the last six years. Obama has deliberately engaged in a foreign policy designed to decrease Americas power in the world. His incoherent policy weakened our relationships with our allies and emboldened our enemies. He foolishly believed that we had established a strategic friendly relationship with Russia until Putin handed him his ass in Syria. Now he has to come to terms with the fact that the reset button that Hillary hit was just like one of those fake buttons that you get at Staples and that leading from behind isn't leading, it's just going along for the ride.
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    Re: Russia To Sanction U.S. Senators.....

    What has started here is the kind of mutual divestment countries go through in the lead up to open hostilities. They start as ways of causing financial difficulty for the opposition government, and slip into full scale economic withdrawal. What the US and Russia are (possibly inadvertently) doing is creating a rift that will slowly force countries to take sides. The end result of that would be a split world economy with Russia and US occupying opposite sides in a new cold war.

    Unfortunately, the way the eventual fault line runs will depend entirely on the skill, determination and competence of the US administration.

    In other words, Eastern Europe is screwed.
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    Re: Russia To Sanction U.S. Senators.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Neither side seriously wants a rupture but both sides are compelled to escalate the tension to serve their respective political interests.
    I agree, and think they both saw this coming with the Ukraine's economy tanking and Russia using them for energy profits and naval bases. Russia may get more flack over this from the West than they bargained for but it's not going to cripple them.
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    Re: Russia To Sanction U.S. Senators.....

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Excellent, Godwin's Law makes a comeback.
    Tell that to the Ukrainians. Or the Georgians (you know, the ones in Europe, not in Dixie). People who bring up Godwin's law when references are made to big countries invading small neighbors and then annexing them are obviously woefully ignorant of history. Sometimes behavior is Hitlerian, regardless of whether you like it or not.

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    Re: Russia To Sanction U.S. Senators.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    That's Right I did say Russia.....but then that would include all those that make up the ruling government of Russia. Which those people do have Names.

    What does that bit about NAM and Soviet Weapons have to do with the Price of Tea in China?

    No.....I trash Durbin for what he says out of his mouth and for being nothing more than a Obama yes man. He use to be his own politician with his own ideas. Course that goes way back when he actually worked for a living. Now he is nothing more than an Obama ass kisser.
    Do you ever say anything positive about the President or negative about the right wing darlings that run the Republican Party? Or is your outrage completely one way, as it is with virtually everybody on the Right?
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    Re: Russia To Sanction U.S. Senators.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Do you ever say anything positive about the President or negative about the right wing darlings that run the Republican Party? Or is your outrage completely one way, as it is with virtually everybody on the Right?
    Yeah.....why don't you run over to the thread I put up with Johnny Quest McCain. Might help with any confusion. Just sayin!

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    Re: Russia To Sanction U.S. Senators.....

    Whilst Diplomatic sanctions and Financial Sanctions may hurt Russia, their most prized asset is ultimately the Russian Oil and Gas Industry which supplies many European Countries and in the process is responsible for the bulk of Russian exports.

    The dependency on Russian Gas varies according to country, with many Eastern European Countries and Countries such as Finland totally dependent, whilst other have less dependency.

    Russia in the European energy sector - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Britain does not rely on Russian Gas instead relying on North Sea Gas and Gas shipped in on large LNG Carriers and stored in places such as the Isle of Grain near London.

    The Isle of Grain alone having the ability to supply 20 per cent of the UK’s forecast gas demand. However to build more LNG storage facilities, LNG Ships and other such facilities in order to supply whole European countries in the short term would be a mammoth task, and as for other alternative fuel sources they tend to be far more long term options.

    A loss of Russian Gas would have serious implications for Russia and many European countries including Germany, and to replace Russian Gas with LNG would require a concerted effort by the west not seen since the Berlin Airlift. Whilst the West would have to take control of whole industries, markets and resources, although it's certainly not an impossible scenario, especially as many western countries such as the US, Canada and Australia have significant Natural Gas Supplies and emerging shale gas deposits, and Europe itself has the potential to carry out future shale gas extraction in certain regions.

    If the West was to work together to negate the European reliance on Russian Energy it would without doubt be a devastating blow to Russia's Economy.

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    What further sanctions could Russia face?





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    Diplomatic travel ban? When's Edward leaving for the Honduras?

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    Re: Russia To Sanction U.S. Senators.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    People who bring up Godwin's law when references are made to big countries invading small neighbors and then annexing them are obviously woefully ignorant of history. Sometimes behavior is Hitlerian, regardless of whether you like it or not.
    One can relate anything to the nazis. Hitler wore pants, and they wear pants...!!

    Until genocide occurs, the comparison is off the table as it belittles the horror.

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