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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    It appears that, once again, Ron Paul is dead-nuts on in his opinions. At least, he is in my opinion.

    I am sure he will get poo-poo'd for it by the neocon, war-minded people from the right, who only whine about the infallibility of the "constitution," when the situation suits them.

    I remember when Ron Paul was boo'd at the GOP debates for telling the truth to the people who did not want to hear it.

    I don't always agree with him. But I do admire him for standing his ground on principle and integrity even when it costs him popularity. His son could learn a thing or two from his father.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Kinda tough to celebrate rebellion in certain middle easter countries and then not celebrate it when it is inconvenient.

    I think as analogies go, we can look closer to home. Suppose (just suppose) mejico decided it was time to annex the US. They already have 30 million or so illegal citizens plus well over 50 million legal immigrants. If mejico began stirring the pot, calling for all latinos to really consider joining the USA w/ mejico, there might be a fair amount of turmoil. Then, if mejico said "you know what...dont worry about the rest of the country...lets just see how California votes. We know in 2014 the latino population will become the majority race group in California. mejico floods in a few million more illegals just to be on the safe side and they hold a vote and voila...California has now voted to become the newest state in mejico. Immediately mejico sends in its military to reinforce the smooth transition to its new duly elected country. It would all be cool...right? Nice...legal...legit...

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Kinda tough to celebrate rebellion in certain middle easter countries and then not celebrate it when it is inconvenient.

    I think as analogies go, we can look closer to home. Suppose (just suppose) mejico decided it was time to annex the US. They already have 30 million or so illegal citizens plus well over 50 million legal immigrants. If mejico began stirring the pot, calling for all latinos to really consider joining the USA w/ mejico, there might be a fair amount of turmoil. Then, if mejico said "you know what...dont worry about the rest of the country...lets just see how California votes. We know in 2014 the latino population will become the majority race group in California. mejico floods in a few million more illegals just to be on the safe side and they hold a vote and voila...California has now voted to become the newest state in mejico. Immediately mejico sends in its military to reinforce the smooth transition to its new duly elected country. It would all be cool...right? Nice...legal...legit...
    You forgot the part where Russia comes half way around the globe to intervene and prevent the Texas/California secession. I mean, technically, that's what the USA is doing, right?

    Our forefathers, who fought and died for the right of self-determination and independence are rolling over in their graves right now.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    He's 100% correct. Sanctions are a ban on private individuals conducting transactions w/specific govts. and individuals--an affront to a free market.

    In reality, the sanctions are merely an attempt by Exxon and the oil lobby to use govt. to tilt the playing field in their advantage.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    It appears that, once again, Ron Paul is dead-nuts on in his opinions. At least, he is in my opinion.

    I am sure he will get poo-poo'd for it by the neocon, war-minded people from the right, who only whine about the infallibility of the "constitution," when the situation suits them.

    I remember when Ron Paul was boo'd at the GOP debates for telling the truth to the people who did not want to hear it.

    I don't always agree with him. But I do admire him for standing his ground on principle and integrity even when it costs him popularity. His son could learn a thing or two from his father.
    His son is representing one of those moronic right-wing tea-tard states where the people don't understand big words like "liberty", "capitalism", etc.

    SO if he wants to stay in office, he'll have to ignore his father and instead do the monkey dance that appeals to the aforementioned voters. . .

    "Prolife, nuke the arabs, deport the spics, kill all the fags, GUNS GUNS GUNS HELL YEAH!"

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    His son is representing one of those moronic right-wing tea-tard states where the people don't understand big words like "liberty", "capitalism", etc.

    SO if he wants to stay in office, he'll have to ignore his father and instead do the monkey dance that appeals to the aforementioned voters. . .

    "Prolife, nuke the arabs, deport the spics, kill all the fags, GUNS GUNS GUNS HELL YEAH!"
    The apple fell far from the tree, rolled to the airport, and flied halfway across the world. I am very disappointed in Rand.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    His son is representing one of those moronic right-wing tea-tard states where the people don't understand big words like "liberty", "capitalism", etc.

    SO if he wants to stay in office, he'll have to ignore his father and instead do the monkey dance that appeals to the aforementioned voters. . .

    "Prolife, nuke the arabs, deport the spics, kill all the fags, GUNS GUNS GUNS HELL YEAH!"
    Yep... Pretty much.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    You forgot the part where Russia comes half way around the globe to intervene and prevent the Texas/California secession. I mean, technically, that's what the USA is doing, right?

    Our forefathers, who fought and died for the right of self-determination and independence are rolling over in their graves right now.
    Would you say Lincoln was one of our 'forefathers'?

    I suspect if there wasnt such a total void in leadership for the last 5-6 years, this would not have happened. Now...anything Obama does makes him look even more like Putins bitch. Sad when the best answer you have is to do nothing.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Would you say Lincoln was one of our 'forefathers'?

    I suspect if there wasnt such a total void in leadership for the last 5-6 years, this would not have happened. Now...anything Obama does makes him look even more like Putins bitch. Sad when the best answer you have is to do nothing.
    I think it is much sadder to have some Americans feel that it is our place to act all Billy Bad-Ass and value bravado more than sensible policy. Of course, everything's Obama's fault. That terrible winter we just went through up here? You guessed it! Obama's fault!

    But I happen to disagree with Obama on Crimea. He needs to keep our big fat intruding nose out of it.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Actually CJ's 'example' is less than useless. The situation isn't close. One area is nooo way close to another... I am VERY relaxed... pointing out total fails in debates is quite relaxing.
    Actually, it's rather arrogant. But if stomping on other people's opinions is what gives you your Hardcore Jollies go right ahead and stomp away. Just don't become too annoyed with the favor is returned.
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