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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Economic sanctions are an act of war.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    According to that nutbag, other nations can do anything but if the US so much as sneezes it's an "act of war".

    At this point, one would think everyone is aware of his lunacy. Yet, some people still take his comments on foreign policy as legit.


    He and his son exist on the backs of idiots. Obviously, they know it. They're just manipulating stupid gullible people and providing fodder for wannabe jihadists.
    His son is winning straw polls and polling as the GOP favorite to run for president

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Ron Paul is coo coo...

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    Someone is going to have to explain this more to me as I don't seem to get it. Crimea voted to leave Ukraine and join Russia. That's their right, no? I am sure there is some behind the scenes going on here, I just don't know enough about the situation I guess.
    No it is not their right. According to the constitution any votes on dividing the Ukraine must be voted on nationwide. Not only that but Putin signed a pact stating that Russia would protect Ukrainian sovereignty.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Economic sanctions are an act of war.
    But invading Crimea is not?

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    I would be a Ron Paul guy, if not for him saying crazy Libbo'esque crap like this.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'll put it in a context for you, closer to home. Here in Canada, the Province of Quebec has been talking separation for a few decades now and actually had several votes on the matter, which failed. Our Supreme Court ruled several years back that a vote on a Province separating now has certain rules that must be followed before it's legit - as well as certain consequences, such as assuming share of the national debt, creation of their own currency, etc.

    Now, if the Quebec Provincial government (insert Crimea's Provincial government for context) decided to ignore the federal government and supreme court's rules for a referendum authorizing separation and held such a vote within a week or two, the vote to separate would have no legal basis or grounds for being recognized as legitimate. Add to that, if US militias - quasi US military troops - flooded into the Province of Quebec and managed the vote, threatened the populace, and the US Congress passed a law authorizing US intervention in the vote and the US President talked up Quebec joining the US, you would then have a situation similar to what's happening in Crimea and the Ukraine these days.
    And what if the 'Oui' side had won tha night...it almost did? Parizeau was apparently going of immediately declare Quebec a nation. And what could Ottawa have done about it...nothing. Send in troops? No chance.

    I don't care what the Supreme Court said or what guidelines Chrétien got through...IMO, if 50%+1 of the vote goes for separation...then that means they should be able to separate.


    And the Ukrainian constitution is not as 'reasonable' as Canada's on the subject. To my knowledge, even if 100% of Crimeans wanted to separate...they cannot without Kiev's say so...that is ridiculous.

    If a state/province votes to leave, they should be able to leave...no matter what the constitution says.


    And the whole thing is absurd.

    Obama and the west vilify this legal referendum (even if it was held under far less then ideal circumstances).

    But they immediately praise and recognize the illegal overthrow of a legally-elected government in Kiev.

    This is hypocrisy...pure and simple.


    I don't like Putin and I would have liked some international observers on the ground for the referendum...but the results are in, the people have chosen.

    And as far as I am concerned, the Crimea should be allowed to do as it's people voted to do on this...join Russia.
    Last edited by DA60; 03-17-14 at 08:40 PM.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    Being the non-interventionist that he is, should we be really surprised? What type of intervention ISN'T an act of war to him?
    A non-interventionist might say "What is going on in Ukraine is awful, this blatant aggression from a thinly veiled autocrat is contemptible. Nevertheless we have no business injecting ourselves into another countries state of affairs half a world away." Instead Paul opted to express his blatant sympathies for the autocratic regime in Moscow. Some 'libertarian'.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    Until I read the article, I hadn't thought too much about the financial sanctions. But, basically confiscating what might amount to hundreds of millions of dollars sets an interesting precedent.

    What happens if China does something we don't like? Are we suddenly going to pay off our national debt? This could set in motion a series of events that could be very harmful to our own economy...

    What right do we have to freeze a country's assets? Really. What right do we have? Should our government be able to basically steal from citizens of foreign countries? Or governments of same? What will we do when foreign countries start freezing our citizens' assets in their countries? Or taking over American corporate assets within their borders?

    This could go hot.

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    Re: Ron Paul slams US on Crimea crisis and says Russia sanctions are an 'act of war'

    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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