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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah it does.....it also looks like the Ukrainians decided to give Democracy a kick in the ass too. Going with a Coup of a Democratic Elected Leader and a Democratic Election.

    Not only did they sign off on it.....but then they actually think that the Rest of the World will forget what they did and Only look at Putin. Now isn't that quite funny.

    Do you think the western MS media can help try and hide that fact now even if they don't like or want to have to report it?

    Not very likely, seeing’s as they have a plane to concentrate on now. Coincidence? That planes long trip under radar sure has my paranoia antenna twitching.
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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Not very likely, seeing’s as they have a plane to concentrate on now. Coincidence? That planes long trip under radar sure has my paranoia antenna twitching.
    No need to worry anymore tho.....Right. 25 nations are now looking. We will finds it.....there is No escape from Planet Earth. <evil Laugh>

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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    CNN talking heads, Wall Street Journal and NY Times writers, President Obama, either directly or through administration spokespeople. You don't need to be an expert. You just need to read the Ukraine Constitution. Since no one's challenged Obama's statement that the vote is illegal under Ukraine law it's reasonable to assume that that is a true statement. Do you have information to the contrary? If so please post it.

    In any case I've already stated that if the Crimean people want to be part of Russia that should be allowed to happen.

    I would suggest that the 95% who voted in favor, Putin and most Russians disagree with a president who appear not to even understand his own.
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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I would suggest that the 95% who voted in favor, Putin and most Russians disagree with a president who appear not to even understand his own.
    Not to pick nits but if the United States is any indicator I'd guess most people in most countries have no idea what their constitutions say in any grea detail.
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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    As for Merkel......I heard she finally spoke to Putin.
    Merkel speaks with Putin almost every day. She's is the key to any resolution to the problem. Putin and her don't use translators as they both speak each others languages fluently. They know each other very well. Putin respects her and so does Moscow. She was against expanding NATO to the east into the Ukraine and Georgia knowing it would piss off Russia. That's Russia's red line. What people aren't talking about is part of the EU package that was rejected by Ukraine was the stepping stone to NATO membership. Once the Ukraine's pro-NATO revolutionaries took over.. all bets were off.

    Now the illegal PM of Ukraine is realizing this and trying to correct his position of Ukraine being a future NATO member to being one of Non-Alignment.
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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Merkel speaks with Putin almost every day. She's is the key to any resolution to the problem. Putin and her don't use translators as they both speak each others languages fluently. They know each other very well. Putin respects her and so does Moscow. She was against expanding NATO to the east into the Ukraine and Georgia knowing it would piss off Russia. That's Russia's red line. What people aren't talking about is part of the EU package that was rejected by Ukraine was the stepping stone to NATO membership. Once the Ukraine's pro-NATO revolutionaries took over.. all bets were off.

    Now the illegal PM of Ukraine is realizing this and trying to correct his position of Ukraine being a future NATO member to being one of Non-Alignment.

    Good Post AC. Not many have brought up Merkel nor what she has been saying to Putin and vice versa. Which you know we aren't talking about the grandstanding and joining in on the bandwagon. Do to NATO commitments.

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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I wouldn't take that too seriously. Viktor Yanukovych is corrupt beyond belief and the Ukrainian people would not stand for his return. Nor would others.Obama sanctions ousted Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, 10 others.

    Why would anyone want him back in power when the elections are due in May?
    Why would we believe that the Billionaires that the USA put in charge are not corrupt. These are billionaires we are talking about, not honest, hard working laborers or heroic patriots. I think billionaires are billionaires because they look out for their own self-interest above all things. We are not talking about patriots, Nation builders, but greed mongers.

    http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/17-8

    "Who Benefits From Ukraine’s Economic Crisis? (Hint: Not Average Ukrainians)
    by Jack Rasmus"

    "6. Ukraine Crony Capitalists-USA Capitalists Connections

    Little has been written to date about the close connections between the Ukraine’s ‘crony capitalists’
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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Why would we believe that the Billionaires that the USA put in charge are not corrupt. These are billionaires we are talking about, not honest, hard working laborers or heroic patriots. I think billionaires are billionaires because they look out for their own self-interest above all things. We are not talking about patriots, Nation builders, but greed mongers.
    If you believe that billionaires (like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet) are inherently dishonest then there is little can be done for you. Sometimes these people are just harder working and more intelligent than others, as well as providing better leadership.

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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If you believe that billionaires (like Bill Gates or Warren Buffet) are inherently dishonest then there is little can be done for you. Sometimes these people are just harder working and more intelligent than others, as well as providing better leadership.
    What could one think? Let's see, these billionaires came out of the regime change/coup with their fortunes intact and in leadership positions and friendly with Western Reserve banks. They must have been working hard and be very bright, otherwise some hero of the revolution would be in charge. Dead fish.

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