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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Oh, and these unnamed commentators and government officials are experts how.

    Commentators like Chris Mathews?

    CNN talking heads, Wall Street Journal and NY Times writers, President Obama, either directly or through administration spokespeople. You don't need to be an expert. You just need to read the Ukraine Constitution. Since no one's challenged Obama's statement that the vote is illegal under Ukraine law it's reasonable to assume that that is a true statement. Do you have information to the contrary? If so please post it.

    In any case I've already stated that if the Crimean people want to be part of Russia that should be allowed to happen.
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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    CNN talking heads, Wall Street Journal and NY Times writers, President Obama, either directly or through administration spokespeople. You don't need to be an expert. You just need to read the Ukraine Constitution. Since no one's challenged Obama's statement that the vote is illegal under Ukraine law it's reasonable to assume that that is a true statement. Do you have information to the contrary? If so please post it.

    In any case I've already stated that if the Crimean people want to be part of Russia that should be allowed to happen.

    Here try this one Gaius.....From the French.



    Sanctions on Russia over Ukraine could come this week: France


    French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on Tuesday that sanctions against Russia over Ukraine could be imposed as early as this week if Moscow failed to respond positively to a proposition designed to calm the crisis.

    Fabius told radio station France Inter that a referendum in the Crimea region on joining Russia set for March 16 was illegitimate and that the annexation of the region by Russia would be illegal.

    "We cannot accept something that is illegal and which will also have very serious consequences," Fabius said.

    The minister said the "only legitimate vote" was that for the president of Ukraine on May 25.....snip~

    Sanctions on Russia over Ukraine could come this week: France

    Guess who that is? That's Right.....Yanokovich.

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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Here try this one Gaius.....From the French.



    Sanctions on Russia over Ukraine could come this week: France


    French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on Tuesday that sanctions against Russia over Ukraine could be imposed as early as this week if Moscow failed to respond positively to a proposition designed to calm the crisis.

    Fabius told radio station France Inter that a referendum in the Crimea region on joining Russia set for March 16 was illegitimate and that the annexation of the region by Russia would be illegal.

    "We cannot accept something that is illegal and which will also have very serious consequences," Fabius said.

    The minister said the "only legitimate vote" was that for the president of Ukraine on May 25.....snip~

    Sanctions on Russia over Ukraine could come this week: France

    Guess who that is? That's Right.....Yanokovich.
    I wonder how Fabius and Sarkozy will react if Russia stop supplying France with oil and gas? And what is Germany doing these days, except watching the ongoing drama show?

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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I wonder how Fabius and Sarkozy will react if Russia stop supplying France with oil and gas? And what is Germany doing these days, except watching the ongoing drama show?
    Heya Lady P......I wonder why the Media wasn't focusing in on what France said.

    As for Merkel......I heard she finally spoke to Putin.

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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    [COLOR="#800000"][B]Guess who that is? That's Right.....Yanokovich.
    I wouldn't take that too seriously. Viktor Yanukovych is corrupt beyond belief and the Ukrainian people would not stand for his return. Nor would others.Obama sanctions ousted Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, 10 others.

    Why would anyone want him back in power when the elections are due in May?

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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Here try this one Gaius.....From the French.



    Sanctions on Russia over Ukraine could come this week: France


    French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on Tuesday that sanctions against Russia over Ukraine could be imposed as early as this week if Moscow failed to respond positively to a proposition designed to calm the crisis.

    Fabius told radio station France Inter that a referendum in the Crimea region on joining Russia set for March 16 was illegitimate and that the annexation of the region by Russia would be illegal.

    "We cannot accept something that is illegal and which will also have very serious consequences," Fabius said.

    The minister said the "only legitimate vote" was that for the president of Ukraine on May 25.....snip~

    Sanctions on Russia over Ukraine could come this week: France

    Guess who that is? That's Right.....Yanokovich.
    Thanks MMC. The British have said much the same thing. I'd be surprised if they had a legal means to secede honestly. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to though.
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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I wouldn't take that too seriously. Viktor Yanukovych is corrupt beyond belief and the Ukrainian people would not stand for his return. Nor would others.Obama sanctions ousted Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych, 10 others.

    Why would anyone want him back in power when the elections are due in May?

    Yeah I know....but I figure France wont accept any Democratic Coup over Democracy.

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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah I know....but I figure France wont accept any Democratic Coup over Democracy.
    A Democratic coup over Democracy?

    I don't believe the French care one way or the other how this thing is settled by the Ukrainian Parliament. The real issue here is Putin, the rest is small potatoes.

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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Lady P......I wonder why the Media wasn't focusing in on what France said.

    As for Merkel......I heard she finally spoke to Putin.
    Well maybe someone with sense will finally get involved! All I've seen so far is stuffed-shirt hotheads running all over the place making things worse by the minute! : France is going to sanction Russia? Uh huh, got it! No more Moet wine deliveries? No more designer clothing? Russia is really going to be sorry!

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    Re: US Rejects Crimea Vote, says Russian actions 'Dangerous'.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Link?


    The only member of this imaginary "international community" Obama and Kerry and Obama keep prattling about is Obama and Kerry. The EU has condemned the vote, but not on constitutional groups, but the fact it was military backed.

    Obama is hardly an expert on anyone's constitution as he seems confused about his own, the United States contains no provision to amend duly passed legislation but he's done it 27 times with one law he commissioned. How the US interfered through the CIA in the Ukraine's ouster of the previous administration is hardly a glass house from which the US can hurl opinions on law written in another language and an Eastern culture.

    Nor is anyone factoring in the reality, that pro western support in the Crimea is in the minority, a minority that boycotted the vote.
    I cant prove a negative.
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