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    Re: 6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    I dont care who they voted for.

    Its wrong that someone voted using the name of a dead person.
    Not if you are Eric Holder or Obama.

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    Re: 6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Rights aren't supposed to have exceptions.
    Unless it's the 2nd Amendment right?
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    Re: 6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    The right to franchise is limited by the states within reason. Felons cannot vote in many instances.
    Ok, true. However, not being able to afford proper ID is not a crime.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: 6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Unless it's the 2nd Amendment right?
    Hey Captain Strawman. When did I say anything about guns?
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    Re: 6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    So you fully endorse the arguments of gun enthusiasts regarding the 2nd now? South Carolina made their ID's free to everyone over 17, and still got sued by Holder's DOJ.
    When didn't I?

    And **** Eric Holder.
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    Re: 6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    When didn't I?
    You suggested in post #41 that you attempted such a thing in the Gun Forum.

    And **** Eric Holder.
    I can agree with that. I simply pointed out that DOJ sued SC over their voter ID law and lost - and the basis was cost and undue burden, which was proven not to be the case at all. If the basis of objection to voter ID is cost, it would seem to be a state by state issue to resolve at this point. SC has proven that such a thing can be done and pass constitutional scrutiny, to everyone's benefit.

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    Re: 6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    You suggested in post #41 that you attempted such a thing in the Gun Forum.



    I can agree with that. I simply pointed out that DOJ sued SC over their voter ID law and lost - and the basis was cost and undue burden, which was proven not to be the case at all. If the basis of objection to voter ID is cost, it would seem to be a state by state issue to resolve at this point. SC has proven that such a thing can be done and pass constitutional scrutiny, to everyone's benefit.
    1. Christ, I flat out SAID it was a joke.

    2. I'll have to read up on that case.
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    Re: 6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    There are many people who are very old who don't have easy access to birth certificates. Statistical relevance does not concern me. Making sure everyone who is eligible to vote is able to does.
    Then put in a clause that says if you are over 85 years old you don't need to prove you are a US Citizen. But the clause expires in 50 years because by then anyone that doesn't have a BC because they lived in a time when BC's were not always given out have long since died out. Easy fix.

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    And I am not in favor of illegal immigrants voting.
    I'd hope not. But how do you expect to keep them from voting?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Really? Tell the guys in the gun forum that, see how that goes.

    (that was my lame attempt at humor)
    While I realize that was an attempt at humor you actually touch on something here. Which I will address down below the last quote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    A poll tax is putting a mandatory cost on voting. Period. And yeah, charities to pay for people voting? Christ, ACORN got disbanded for HELPING PEOPLE REGISTER TO VOTE. Let's get serious here, Kal.
    No, a poll tax is putting a cost on voting in such a way as to disqualify a certain group from voting because the majority of that group wouldn't qualify. That is what poll taxes were for. Some of the poll taxes that were used back in the day to try and disqualify blacks from voting (which prompted the poll tax amendment) were not just about money. It was also about education. Many whites knew that due to slavery very few blacks actually had an education so made laws that required people to be able to read and answer questions. If you couldn't then you couldn't vote. Yes requireing payment was part of it also. But they set the price so high that most blacks couldn't afford to pay to vote. We're not asking for such a tax. And paying $10 per ID is NOT out of range for anyone and is enough to cover the costs of the materials for the ID.

    As for ACORN, they didn't get disbanded for helping people to register to vote. They got disbanded for intimidation and voter fraud. There's eyewitness testimony of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    No, a poll tax is a tax on voting. Is there a Free Speech Tax? A Not-Quartering-Soldiers-In-Your-House Tax? A Right-To-A-Speedy-Trial Tax?

    I don't care if you're the laziest mother****er on earth. You have the right to vote.
    Here's where I address the previous quote also. All that I need to show that Rights can be "taxed" in certain situations is just one example. If you consider requiring someone to pay $10 for a photo ID which can be used for everything including proving that you are a US Citizen as a poll tax then why isn't having to get a license to own a gun considered as a "gun tax"? Now keep in mind what you are implying here with this last quote here. You're trying to imply that you can't tax a right. Well, obviously it can be done and has been done. Indeed this tax on getting a license to own a gun is often of a much higher price then $10.

    Why is it OK to tax someone before they can exercise one right but not OK to tax someone to exercise another right? What was your last words here "you have a right to vote"...well...you have a right to own a gun also. Yet it has been deemd OK and Constitutional to require that people pay to be able to exercise that right. The difference here is that we are just asking that people pay a measley $10 dollars. The cost for the materials and labor for an ID. Where as getting a license to own a gun costs a lot more.
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    Re: 6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    1. Christ, I flat out SAID it was a joke.
    So you did, but you also implied that you had tried such a thing yourself. Perhaps you haven't. I'll take your statement on rights as you made it.

    2. I'll have to read up on that case.
    It's interesting.

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    Re: 6,100 dead people on Nassau voter rolls

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ok, true. However, not being able to afford proper ID is not a crime.
    There isn't one person in this country that cannot afford $10. Even beggers can make that much.
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