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    Re: Designer Babies on the Way?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    Broken link.

    I'm going to assume that the article has to do with babies that were genetically modified before birth. I have no problem with this as long as it is state-funded, I don't want a GATTACA-like society to spring to life.
    I fixed the link just a bit ago.

    Also, the article talks about finding the human intelligence gene. So what they did was get samples from people with IQ's over 140 and math wizards and are trying to pin point intelligence and like you said make it up to the point if a couple wants a infant with high intellect they would be capable of doing so.
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    Hanging your hat entirely on the CURRENT legality of something you want to be legal and others want to make illegal does not constitute a salient argument. At all.
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    What is "alive" and how does it apply to the fetus?

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    Re: Designer Babies on the Way?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I agree. But one thing the article brings up...and I'd have to think is the fundamental obstacle to overcome:



    If there's been no luck in finding a sexual orientation gene, I'd image finding the gene that controls intellect and cognitive processes is going to be quite the task and I don't think any of us will be around to know if and when such a discovery takes place.

    It is, however, pretty amazing at the gene slicing and dicing now done to supposedly improve foods, which nobody wants to eat.

    I'm okay with frankenfoods, as long as they are thoroughly tested... and I'm okay with human genetic engineering, as long as it is well-tested and we're careful and don't try to create an 'uber-race'... though I suspect someone WILL try that at some point. Interesting times no doubt.

    But yeah, we're probably going to find that "intelligence" is too complicated to be assigned to one gene or simple sequence of genes. I suspect it will turn out to be related to various combinations of genes and EXPRESSIONS of those genes, as well as pre-natal environment, early exposure to learning and cognitive operations, and so on... I doubt any megalocephalic super-brains will be created any time soon.

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    Re: Designer Babies on the Way?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    engineering people would be good and it would be a shame to not ever do so
    Are you into transhumanism by any chance?
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    Re: Designer Babies on the Way?

    I think payday will be associated with creating artificial intelligence that resembles and functions like humans.

    And use the genetic altering talents to overcome human disease and birth defects.

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    Re: Designer Babies on the Way?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    It is inevitable. It is also inevitable that we will make mistakes along the way.
    This. Frankly, I think it'll ultimately wind up being for the best in the long run as well.

    For the first time in history, humanity will have the ability to basically "edit" some it's oldest flaws out of the gene pool.

    The possibilities for what could be accomplished here are virtually endless. You name it - increased intelligence, longer life spans, reduced inclination towards violence, addiction, and criminality, lower disease rates, painless (or, at the very least, significantly pain reduced) child birth - it all could be made possible through genetic engineering.

    Making sure that this power was not abused would be the only real problem.
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    Re: Designer Babies on the Way?

    Quote Originally Posted by GEIxBattleRifle View Post
    Hello everyone.

    When I was looking throughout the internet here this morning, I found a interested article about China's attempt to unravel human intelligence.

    "Designer babies" on the way? In China, scientists attempt to unravel human intelligence - CBS News

    Discuss?
    I'm glad I won't be alive as humanity "progresses" down this road. It troubles me in many ways. I'd say that anyone who is in a minority that is genetically based should be concerned that people like them may be "filtered" out sometime down the road.

    Let's look at one situation that may be very controversial in time - it seems to be a given now, in the minds of the majority, that homosexuality is genetic and not environmental. How will people feel if, in time, the genetic marker for homosexuality is discovered and it is used to weed out the defect. It's not a big step from aborting babies based on sex to aborting babies based on sexuality.

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    Re: Designer Babies on the Way?

    Quote Originally Posted by GEIxBattleRifle View Post
    Hello everyone.

    When I was looking throughout the internet here this morning, I found a interested article about China's attempt to unravel human intelligence.

    "Designer babies" on the way? In China, scientists attempt to unravel human intelligence - CBS News

    Discuss?
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    Re: Designer Babies on the Way?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm glad I won't be alive as humanity "progresses" down this road. It troubles me in many ways. I'd say that anyone who is in a minority that is genetically based should be concerned that people like them may be "filtered" out sometime down the road.

    Let's look at one situation that may be very controversial in time - it seems to be a given now, in the minds of the majority, that homosexuality is genetic and not environmental. How will people feel if, in time, the genetic marker for homosexuality is discovered and it is used to weed out the defect. It's not a big step from aborting babies based on sex to aborting babies based on sexuality.

    Scientific progress is not always for the betterment of mankind.
    Actually that is probably single most argued point against advances made in genetic alterations...well, by the gay community. And they could be right.

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    Re: Designer Babies on the Way?

    Quote Originally Posted by GEIxBattleRifle View Post
    Are you into transhumanism by any chance?

    I've studied the theory/movement/ideology of transhumanism, and find it quite interesting... but I think there are some fundamental flaws in it, mainly around excessive enthusiasm and overly optimistic assumptions relating to AI, cybernetic neural interfaces, nano- and bio-tech.


    In the 1950's, "Atomic" was a word to conjure with... that is, to conjure up unimaginable effects and explain them away with a word. These days, the buzzwords are "quantum", "Nano", "Bio" and "AI"... and they will probably turn out to have limits well short of the most overenthused assumptions made about them, just as "Atomic" did.

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    Re: Designer Babies on the Way?

    Quote Originally Posted by GEIxBattleRifle View Post
    Are you into transhumanism by any chance?
    I like the sound of it at least

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