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    Re: US Network to Scan Workers with Secret Clearances......

    The system is intended to identify rogue agents, corrupt officials and leakers, and draws on a Defense Department model under development for more than a decade, according to officials and documents reviewed by the AP.

    ..and anyone saying bad things about US foreign or domestic policy, anyone not buying Obamacare and anyone planning to leave the country...

    The circle is complete. Homeland Security can come and arrest you in the night, tell no one, give no reasons, and hold you in secret indefinitely.

    Notice any comparisons to North Korea? Cuba? The old USSR? They are said it was for national security. I have a feeling Canada is going tro be seeing another wave of American refugees...
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    Re: US Network to Scan Workers with Secret Clearances......

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I don't like it. It will be abused, you can count on that. Not to mention its a relatively simple step to go from monitoring 5 million people to 300+ million. Might not be simple to implement maybe...but it wouldn't take much to get it expanded. Look at the Patriot Act. A program that was meant to help catch terrorists. It was used by judges to allow the monitoring of millions of US Citizens without even a hint of probable cause attached to those citizens to do so.
    This is what they do with the technology developed from MMORPGs. I suspect this sort of tech comes from companies like Blizzard monitoring your RAM while you play , looking for unauthorized bottling programs or hacks. They can also use the game-economy to make fuzzy-logic models to predict economic and social trends.

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    Re: US Network to Scan Workers with Secret Clearances......

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    ..and anyone saying bad things about US foreign or domestic policy, anyone not buying Obamacare and anyone planning to leave the country...

    The circle is complete. Homeland Security can come and arrest you in the night, tell no one, give no reasons, and hold you in secret indefinitely.

    Notice any comparisons to North Korea? Cuba? The old USSR? They are said it was for national security. I have a feeling Canada is going tro be seeing another wave of American refugees...
    ...did you just make a straw man and then base an argument upon that?
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    Re: US Network to Scan Workers with Secret Clearances......

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya AJ. Let us know if you do find anything out. Be appreciated brutha.
    no problem, i am really curious now.

    before the monitoring they did, that i was aware of, was credit report, large financial transactions, travel, police record and foreign contacts(family/friends etc)

    like for example if i go to mexico they need notified, if i do it on my own i WILL be questioned, if i buy a house the same thing goes
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    Re: US Network to Scan Workers with Secret Clearances......

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I'm with you on this. I was not happy Snowden released so much about over seas intel gathering but was NOT happy the Gubmint was so deep into ahhhhh 'monitoring' Domestic calls. What strikes me as odd is so much damage has been done from military, federal law enforcement, the CIA and defense contractors there really isn't much of a watch dog on those who routinely handle classified documents, but how quickly widespread information gathering on US Citizens was voted on by Congress for 'terrorism'.
    I would bet that if people were not so afraid to whistle blow people like snowden would never have given out the information about intel on foreign countries. I seriously believe that the only reason Snowden did was because he was trying to buy himself a safe haven. We really do need something to protect those that whistleblow on the wrong things that the government does. Good luck on that though.
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    Re: US Network to Scan Workers with Secret Clearances......

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It's about maintaining that scrutiny - and even furthering it in sight of a number of events over the last decade.

    Well aware of what's being discussed and yet I still have no problem with it.
    Yes, it's about further impeding potential whistle blowers from exposing government corruption and abuse. Things are getting worse, not better. And though on Obama's platform was improvement of whistle blower protections, he has diminished them and imprisoned more whistle blowers than any of his predecessors.
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    Re: US Network to Scan Workers with Secret Clearances......

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, it's about further impeding potential whistle blowers from exposing government corruption and abuse. Things are getting worse, not better. And though on Obama's platform was improvement of whistle blower protections, he has diminished them and imprisoned more whistle blowers than any of his predecessors.
    So you're arguing that people with access to sensitive information and operations should be held under close scrutiny?

    Is your entire MO just to hurt US foreign policy? lol
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    Re: US Network to Scan Workers with Secret Clearances......

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    So you're arguing that people with access to sensitive information and operations should be held under close scrutiny?

    Is your entire MO just to hurt US foreign policy? lol
    Why do you quote me so often and then respond without directly addressing the quote. Want to speak to Obama's promise of enhanced whistle blower protection?
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    Re: US Network to Scan Workers with Secret Clearances......

    I want to discuss why our federal Congress believes they deserve wartime powers even when they cannot justify wartime tax rates.

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    Re: US Network to Scan Workers with Secret Clearances......

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Why do you quote me so often and then respond without directly addressing the quote. Want to speak to Obama's promise of enhanced whistle blower protection?
    I asked if you if you think people with access to sensitive information and operations should be held under close scrutiny or not.

    I don't care much Obama's promise: it was either just something he said to drum up votes from the dumb among us, or it was something he honestly thought but they realized was a dumb idea. Either way, he didn't do it, and that's good.
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