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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The filibuster WAS still in place, which is why VP Biden was there to break a tie.
    Seven DEMs voted to sustain the filibuster, while others wanted debate before they voted no.
    It is on you for not wanting to read the OP's link, being from Politico .

    This wasn't a filibuster, it was a test vote. A test vote is just to see how the Senate would vote if they brought the vote to the floor. When the test showed that the nomination would fail on the floor they tabled the nominee. Biden was there because, unlike a filibuster, the test vote could conceivably end in a tie.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    This is not historic, and Obama has had problems with BlueDogs in the Senate since his initial inauguration. I really wish you conservatives had some semblance of memory retention.
    Well, you make a gross assumption that I am a conservative. It is perhaps somewhat narrow minded that a Liberal cannot possibly find fault with Obama or his administration, but I happen to be a card carrying member of the Liberal Party of Canada and proud of it; I know of no conservative that supports a woman's right to choose, gay marriage and universal health care.

    So, now that we have established your credibility, how is Obama not getting his way on an appointee not historic and precedent setting in light of the possibility of Supreme Court appointments.


    Can you supply examples of the "problems" Obama has had with "Blue Dogs" as I am do like to learn.

    And, would you please reduce your tone? I have no way insulted anyone and the reference to being mentally ill or an Alzhiemer's patient is a disgusting and unnecessary venture into stereotypical small mindedness.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So you deny that it was a filibuster also?
    I have no idea and do not care.

    The results of the vote are the results of the vote.

    My post was about a gross distortion of that post, your refusal to address that tells me that you are not honorable and I question whether I should have any further dealings with you.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Did you read the OP's link?

    And as a huge supporter of Heitkamp and Donnelly, who voted NO,
    GOPs/Cons other than you stand out in their attempts to divide DEMs .
    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    This wasn't a filibuster, it was a test vote. A test vote is just to see how the Senate would vote if they brought the vote to the floor. When the test showed that the nomination would fail on the floor they tabled the nominee. Biden was there because, unlike a filibuster, the test vote could conceivably end in a tie.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    I have no idea and do not care.

    The results of the vote are the results of the vote.
    Then you're offr-topic and derailing the thread.
    In the link, the yes/no vote was 47-52 .
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Did you read the OP's link?

    And as a huge supporter of Heitkamp and Donnelly, who voted NO,
    GOPs/Cons other than you stand out in their attempts to divide DEMs .
    Yes I did. It clearly states that this was a post-filibuster nominee vote. It wasn't a filibuster.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Then you're offr-topic and derailing the thread.
    In the link, the yes/no vote was 47-52 .

    Thank you for that advice.'


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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'll stop here because you refuse to acknowledge that this was a filibuster.
    When you're serious, you know where I am, CanadaJohn .
    As someone who was a parliamentarian as a profession, it is my view that a simple majority vote is not a filibuster. A filibuster is a procedural tool that requires greater than majority plus one in order to pass. Now, the Senate may have had a procedural vote to, in effect, take the committee report from the table and debate it and that vote failed, and Harry Reid refused to bring it up for an up or down vote, without debate. But that's not a filibuster. You claim the author of the OP is wrong and yet you provide no actual evidence, other than your opinion, to counter his position.

    I won't suggest you're not serious, since I don't like to impune motive when someone I'm discussing something with simply disagrees. We'll just have to wait and see what the actual vote was on. Until then, you can speculate and I can speculate and neither one of us knows the answer.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Moderator's Warning:
    Cool it off. It is possible to discuss this topic without heated nonsense and attacks. It would be wise to acquire this skill.

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    Re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    what was the basis of the opposition (other than the strange name)?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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