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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Democrats help block Obama?s DOJ pick - Burgess Everett - POLITICO.com

    "Several Senate Democrats rebelled Wednesday to join Republicans in blocking President Barack Obama’s controversial pick to lead the Justice Department’s civil rights division.The rejection of Debo Adegbile in a 47-52 vote marks the first time that the Senate has thwarted one of Obama’s nominees since Democrats changed filibuster rules in November — a historic change that was supposed to make it easier for the majority party to move nominations."


    Yep, even Democrats have to think about the backlash that installing the defense atty of a high profile cop killer in the DoJ would have on their re-election campaigns. Since the position is for the civil rights aspect, probably he's absolutely perfect for the job, but I can totally see them shying away from the imagined and likely ads that will be put up against them if they vote for him.

    Additionally, in an article at the LATimes about this, it mentions that some are calling out racism, which I must say in this case seems very much ridiculous. Unless worrying about how installing what can be twisted into being a pro-cop-killer atty into an appointment is the same a racism.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    The filibuster vote was THREE votes short, not 13, which is why VP Biden was there to break a tie.
    Why are you ignoring the New 'Nuke' rules related to nominees ?
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Have Googled and haven't found one yet - I'm not ignoring or refuting your claim, I simply said it was counter to the author of the OP's take on it - I like to trust the authors of OP's until factually proven wrong. Wouldn't be the first time Politico got something wrong. And it seems odd, to me, that a filibuster vote would be so lopsided - 13 votes short - and that Biden would be there - that sounds to me like Democrat leadership not having a clue.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Though this is a proper post, it does not address the OP,
    that Obama's appointments should/shouldn't have these problems of clearing procedural hurdles.

    The seven DEMs sustained the filibuster, though I support other DEM Senators who wanted debate before voting NO/YES,
    opposing the filibuster in principle.

    This is exactly what happened with Toomey/Manchin, which got filibustered by the NRA,
    in which Toomey was on the other side.

    Who is to say that 'legislative' filibusters shouldn't also be 'nuked', which currently require 60 votes,
    which Sen. Grassley has already threatened if the GOP takes the Senate ?
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    Now to bring the topic back from the partisan forum:

    This person was toast as the law enforcement apparatus of Philadelphia was dead set against her/him (not sure of this person's gender) particularly the Democrat D.A. The final nail came when Bob Casey announced he was against her/him.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The filibuster vote was THREE votes short, not 13, which is why VP Biden was there to break a tie.
    Why are you ignoring the New 'Nuke' rules related to nominees ?
    Come'on NIMBY, that's just playing games. Saying that the Dems couldn't get 50 plus Biden for a nominee isn't a filibuster, it's a straight up rejection of the nominee. Are you telling me that the Senate is inane enough now that they have to have a plus one majority vote on a filibuster before they have a plus one vote on the substance of the issue? I know Democrat politicians are idiots, but that's beyond idiocy.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The filibuster WAS still in place, which is why VP Biden was there to break a tie.
    Seven DEMs voted to sustain the filibuster, while others wanted debate before they voted no.
    It is on you for not wanting to read the OP's link, being from Politico .
    My apologies, but I do not understand what you are arguing.

    The Democrats broke caucus and voted with your evil and demonic Republicans which is an historic precedent and yet another example of how president Obama's hold on the party is crumbling. When your own people jump ship and go with the "enemies" as Obama defined them, there is no logic in the world that can turn that into a loss for the Republicans.

    How and who voted for what months ago isn't really relevant to the OP, another rung down Obama' falling ladder.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Come'on NIMBY, that's just playing games.
    I'll stop here because you refuse to acknowledge that this was a filibuster.
    When you're serious, you know where I am, CanadaJohn .
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    My apologies, but I do not understand what you are arguing.

    The Democrats broke caucus and voted with your evil and demonic Republicans which is an historic and yet another example of how president Obama's hold on the party is crumbling. When your own people jump ship and go with the "enemies" as Obama defined them, there is no logic in the world that can turn that into a loss for the Republicans.

    How and who voted for what months ago isn't really relevant to the OP, another rung down Obama' falling ladder.
    This is not historic, and Obama has had problems with BlueDogs in the Senate since his initial inauguration. I really wish you conservatives had some semblance of memory retention.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    How and who voted for what months ago isn't really relevant to the OP, another rung down Obama' falling ladder.
    So when DEMs vote their conscience on a filibuster, as they did aginst Toomey/Manchin, it's back to Obama Derangement Syndrome .
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I'll stop here because you refuse to acknowledge that this was a filibuster.
    when you're serious, you know where I am, CanadaJohn .


    My apologies if this offends you, but that is a gross distortion of that post.

    If you cannot stand behind your assertions, you should not make them. Running away is not victory.
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    re: Democrats help block Obama’s DOJ pick[W:29]

    So you deny that it was a filibuster also?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    My apologies if this offends you, but that is a gross distortion of that post.

    If you cannot stand behind your assertions, you should not make them. Running away is not victory.
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