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Thread: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

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    Re: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Oh Jesus Christ.

    Forget I engaged in a conversation with you.

    This kind of irrational, school-yard nonsense response to something that isn't any of our ****ing business is why I thank God every day that we've got a spineless idiot in the White House rather than an idiot who would gladly sacrifice 10,000 American lives to defend nothing, but look like a Wild West tough guy doing.
    What a narrow minded approach to the situation. You'd think we live in a bubble or something. Fact check.... we need to protect Europe from Russian incursion. If Russia can take Ukraine and we do absolutely nothing, then why not take Poland? Why not take Germany? We have to make a stand somewhere.

    If you let Russia control Europe, then they are the global superpower, not us. You want to live in a Russian world?

    But your small-minded outlook is playing checkers while the Russians are playing chess.

    And yes, when you're in a negotiation you need to be holding some cards. Otherwise you're just begging. Obama is a spineless wimp, he clearly won't do anything in response to Russia's aggression, so they remain in Crimea and make themselves right at home. If we're not careful, they will take the rest of Ukraine as well.

    The only reason they haven't yet is because the Ukrainians, not the Americans, would fight back. What's Obama gonna do in that case?

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    Re: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    WE are fine, WE don't need Russia at all, the EUROPEANS are not. THEY need Russia. Get it?
    Yeah. Funny thing about that whole oil market/world currency thing. When you have Russia, maybe Iran, and maybe China all on the same page...well...you are at risk. Europe is at risk. I dont know if it is even a viable threat, but it should cause people to at least have an action plan in place just in case.

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    Re: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    He won't do it, though, because he doesn't want the "greenies" whining and pouting, and threatening not to back him.

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    Re: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

    great, another escalation in the international dick measuring contest.

    meanwhile, bridges and roads and stuff? yeah.

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    Re: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yeah. Funny thing about that whole oil market/world currency thing. When you have Russia, maybe Iran, and maybe China all on the same page...well...you are at risk. Europe is at risk. I dont know if it is even a viable threat, but it should cause people to at least have an action plan in place just in case.

    Obama is blowing this about as badly as can be. People should really think twice next time when they vote for a president just because he seems "cool" or whatever their stupid reasons were for being asleep at the wheel.

    Look at where we are now. Russia is basically threatening to drag China and the Middle Eastern countries in to this. Odds are, they won't join the fight, but what if they did?

    I said a few days ago that there was about a 15% chance that this situation escalates to WW3. I'm now up to 15-20% chance.

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    Re: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    He won't do it, though, because he doesn't want the "greenies" whining and pouting, and threatening not to back him.

    Greetings, RM.
    Yo Polgara.

    Just thought I'd pitch in a possible solution. I think it's more like Obama is turning green with envy. Putin it Putin on quite a show...

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    Re: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Obama is blowing this about as badly as can be. People should really think twice next time when they vote for a president just because he seems "cool" or whatever their stupid reasons were for being asleep at the wheel.

    Look at where we are now. Russia is basically threatening to drag China and the Middle Eastern countries in to this. Odds are, they won't join the fight, but what if they did?

    I said a few days ago that there was about a 15% chance that this situation escalates to WW3. I'm now up to 15-20% chance.

    If you'd just send me your GPS coordinates, I'll send a tow truck with a winch to pull the head out of the sand, if that's the problem. I'm pretty sure you'll find CIA intrigue behind this whole problem and maybe a whole coterie of Republicans. Maybe this instability is exactly what the CIA wants. Isn't it one hell of a coincidence that this whole problem is at an intersection of energy distribution and in the Big Energy Corporations's interests. We really should send Russia some money to help them resolve this mess we've created. In the meantime, disconnect from that pipeline connected to the Mass Media Mindbender channel and seek reality. I could send a bottle of Two Buck Chuck if the problems seem insoluble.

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    Re: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

    Ha, I love Two Buck Chuck!
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    Re: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Russia has $200 billion in US bonds and could dump them to drop US Dollar value. Russia is the World's largest energy exporter and could price its' energy in Rubles and reduce demand for the US Petrodollar. Russia runs a surplus not a debt as the USA does. I think Putin usually does what's best for Russia and gives the World the finger regarding
    hypocritical accusations of Imperialism, expansion, etc. We are the ones that screwed Russia after the breakup of the USSR by encroaching upon Russia with NATO, missile bases and economic interference (a la Ukraine). If you check the inputs for all those pipelines bottlenecked through Ukraine, you will observe that the pipelines are filled with Russian petro. I wonder who controls the valves at the input? It's the typical Russian bear and do you want to poke the bear with a short stick in the bear's own badkyard? It doesn't require rocket science to analyze the problems and solutions for the Ukraine. I, for one, trust Putin and see in all the dealings since the USSR breakup that the USA has been dealing from the bottom of the deck.
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Then why haven't they done so already?
    The reason Russia hasn't dropped the US dollar is because it would hurt them, far more than us. Now Russia, combined with some help from the Chinese, could rock our Casbah. The US would simply use the FED to cover any bond shortages. Writing off debt is our magic trick. We don't do enough direct business with Russia to be overly affected.

    This is still a small amount compared to what we trade with Europe, Asia and South America.

    The United States is working vigorously to expand bilateral trade and investment cooperation to benefit both Russia and the United States. Over the past three years, the positive atmosphere resulting from the “reset” of bilateral relations has led to an unprecedented advance in economic cooperation between our countries. From 2009 to 2011, U.S. exports to Russia rose 57 percent and total U.S.-Russia trade increased over 80 percent. U.S. companies reported numerous major business deals in Russia in 2012, including the ExxonMobil-Rosneft deal in May for exploration in the Arctic shelf, Boeing’s $15 billion in aircraft sales in Russia over the past five years, and Ex-Im Bank’s June MOU signing with Sberbank, Russia’s largest bank, to support up to $1 billion in exports to Russia.

    Russia

    Here's why they're getting upset with our meddling in their backyard, and why we have to be careful to not act too aggressively, giving the Chinese reason to economically favor Russia. That whole "democracy, humanitarian, peace efforts" by NATO is nothing but a geopolitical strategy for energy resources.


    Russia's key policy goal is blocking American efforts to shape the region.

    Russia doesn't believe revolutions, wars and regime change bring stability and democracy. It often points to the Arab Spring and the U.S.-led war in Iraq as evidence.

    Russia also doesn't trust U.S. intentions in the region. It believes humanitarian concerns are often used an excuse for pursuing America's own political and economic interests.

    "Russia's backing of (Syrian President Bashar) al-Assad is driven by the need to preserve its naval presence in the Mediterranean, secure its energy contracts, and counter the West on 'regime change'".

    China is a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council. And like Russia, China has repeatedly blocked sanctions attempts against the Syrian regime -- leading to a perpetual stalemate at the U.N. body to take any serious action on Syria.

    Why Russia, Iran and China are standing by Syria - CNN.com
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    Re: Russia warns could 'reduce to zero' economic dependency on US

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    WE are fine, WE don't need Russia at all, the EUROPEANS are not. THEY need Russia. Get it?
    Just out of curiosity, are you an isolationist?
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