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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Which has absolutely NOTHING to do with a school being able to make rules to protect the safety of its population. Your comment and the political rant which is at its core is irrelevant and does not apply to the topic or issue before us.
    claiming the zero tolerance finger rule is about safety is just plain ludicrous. its about mindless bots who don't want to have to make discretionary calls. Its about CYA because of lawsuits



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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No. I asked them if they would. And the answer was YES.

    Get your facts straight before you post.
    I didn't see TD say yes, please show me where I missed it. I saw one other poster who was responding say yes, if he thought the rule was idiotic. Your allegation was toward TD.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    claiming the zero tolerance finger rule is about safety is just plain ludicrous. its about mindless bots who don't want to have to make discretionary calls. Its about CYA because of lawsuits
    I haven't seen proof yet, but you must be telling your son to break the rules. Investigation continues.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I haven't seen proof yet, but you must be telling your son to break the rules. Investigation continues.
    we would't attend a school with such mindlessness but I admit, the private schools are getting worse too



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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Perhaps, but I have seen and read about too many of these asinine things going on. Besides, that is what DP is all about. A place to vice your pleasures and displeasure. As I read and hear more and more about these idiotic happenings, the more I think society or at least those in charge have gone to pot. Common sense need not apply.
    Maybe you just read the headlines, eh?

    Common sense dictates that children should follow the school rules and respect their elders and that includes teachers. So if society is going to pot then perhaps its because parents aren't teaching their kids how to behave in society.

    I read the Ohio zero tolerance law and in it there's a provision for districts to create "alternative" schools where other schools in the district can send their delinquint and troubled students. I suspect that Devonshire Alternative Elementry school is one of those "alternative" schools, which suggests that dear innocent little Nathan has issues and a past that the article doesn't mention.

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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we would't attend a school with such mindlessness but I admit, the private schools are getting worse too
    Oh, so you're one of them!! We actually had our kids in private school for a while. I realize that's very un-American these days.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    claiming the zero tolerance finger rule is about safety is just plain ludicrous. its about mindless bots who don't want to have to make discretionary calls. Its about CYA because of lawsuits
    That argument is to be made when the policy is proposed. Once it has been proposed, discussed and voted on - the issue is done. You do not have the right to make a discretionary call regarding a policy adopted by the school board regarding student safety. Its done.

    If you do not like the school rules - you can
    1- lobby the school to change them
    2- lobby the school board to change them
    3- find a school with rules more to your liking
    4- home school your own children

    But you do not have the discretion to tell your kids to disobey school rules and expect they can get away with it.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I didn't see TD say yes, please show me where I missed it. I saw one other poster who was responding say yes, if he thought the rule was idiotic. Your allegation was toward TD.
    Why are you singling out one person by name and ignoring the others who said yes? My back and forth on this was with Kal stang. TD was, at best, a minor player.

    Again, why single out Turtle......Oh wait it is you American who are posting this.... never mind - silly question.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why are you singling out one person by name and ignoring the others who said yes?

    Oh wait it you American posting this.... never mind - silly question.
    Nice dodge.

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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Nice dodge.

    You mean dodge as in the big fast powerful vehicle which ran into your argument head on and destroyed it like a skunk getting run over by a 3,000 pound machine? Yup it was a nice Dodge and did its job quite well.
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