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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    If a school directive is totally idiotic (and in this case it is) then the answer is yes. I want my kids to grow up to be independent thinkers with common sense, not dumb little fascists.
    And then we wonder why schools have a hard time disciplining and managing groups of kids with parents who think like this.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The school didn't write the headlines. The father of the boy posted a video on youtube stating that was the reason. The letters sent out by the school said the boys were playing cops and robbers in the classroom. The article misled you, blame them. Now days you have to read more than one source to get the whole story because objective journalism is fast becoming a thing of the past.
    I agree. read but verify.

    News seems to hype most stories.

    Being in the older group on DB, I grew playing war, cop/robber, etc. Had toy guns, toy soldiers. We had fist fights at time at school. imo the kids today in some cases do not get the parenting they use to get.

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    I saw Dedra Imus say on her husbands show this morning "we can't do that in this day and time." That scares me. In their wildest dreams Mao, Stalin and Hitler could never hope to scare the populous as much as we are now afraid to blink and think.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

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    And then we wonder why schools have a hard time disciplining and managing groups of kids with parents who think like this.
    So it's a bad thing to want your kids to be independent thinkers with common sense? You want them to be fascists?
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So it's a bad thing to want your kids to be independent thinkers with common sense? You want them to be fascists?
    Over the top hyperbole and gross exaggeration hardly serves any point you are trying to make. If you enroll your kids in a school and you have an issue with them following the rules of that school- find another school to your liking or better yet - you become the school and home school them. Make sure you advise them to NOT obey their teacher there also and to question that teachers authority and disobey if necessary. That would be poetic justice. DO NOT undermine the ability of the school to take care of its student population by telling your kids NOT to follow rules and disobey them.

    And I have no idea what any of that has to do with fascism.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    A rush to judgement before knowing all the facts is pretty simple minded, too.
    Perhaps, but I have seen and read about too many of these asinine things going on. Besides, that is what DP is all about. A place to vice your pleasures and displeasure. As I read and hear more and more about these idiotic happenings, the more I think society or at least those in charge have gone to pot. Common sense need not apply.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Over the top hyperbole and gross exaggeration hardly serves any point you are trying to make. If you enroll your kids in a school and you have an issue with them following the rules of that school- find another school to your liking or better yet - you become the school and home school them. Make sure you advise them to NOT obey their teacher there also and to question that teachers authority and disobey if necessary. That would be poetic justice. DO NOT undermine the ability of the school to take care of its student population by telling your kids NOT to follow rules and disobey them.

    And I have no idea what any of that has to do with fascism.
    You responded to a post stating that the kids should be brought up as independent thinkers with common sense and not fascists saying that post was no wonder schools are having a hard time. The only rules mentioned between your two posts was idiotic rules. Not rules in general. Just idiotic rules. The only conclusion to be drawn from that is that you do not want children to be independent thinkers with common sense and want them to be fascists. Going by both posts.

    Now if you do want kids to be independent thinkers then you should have no problem with kids disregarding idiotic rules such as pointing your fingers like a gun causing suspensions. Not saying that is what happened in the OP. But the pointing fingers like a gun and getting suspended for it is most definitely an example that HAS happened...even if not in the OP's instance.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So it's a bad thing to want your kids to be independent thinkers with common sense? You want them to be fascists?
    Do you want your kids thinking that rules and laws don't apply to them? We have places for people like that, it's called prison.

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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You responded to a post stating that the kids should be brought up as independent thinkers with common sense and not fascists saying that post was no wonder schools are having a hard time. The only rules mentioned between your two posts was idiotic rules. Not rules in general. Just idiotic rules. The only conclusion to be drawn from that is that you do not want children to be independent thinkers with common sense and want them to be fascists. Going by both posts.

    Now if you do want kids to be independent thinkers then you should have no problem with kids disregarding idiotic rules such as pointing your fingers like a gun causing suspensions. Not saying that is what happened in the OP. But the pointing fingers like a gun and getting suspended for it is most definitely an example that HAS happened...even if not in the OP's instance.
    Rules that YOU consider as idiotic. The school does not consider them as idiotic but rather as essential to the safety and security of the population they have been entrusted with.

    If you do not like the school rules - you can
    1- lobby the school to change them
    2- lobby the school board to change them
    3- find a school with rules more to your liking
    4- home school your own children

    DO NOT UNDERMINE THE SCHOOL BY TELLING YOUR KIDS TO DISOBEY THE RULES BECAUSE OF SOME POLITICAL ISSUES YOU HAVE.

    I taught in the public school system for 33 years - the vast vast majority in high school. On the first day I would give all the kids a list of my written procedures and rules. Each kid had to sign it and then take it home and have a parent sign it. If a parent or student had an issue with a rule or procedure I was happy to talk about it but in the end - they either signed and followed or I would not accept them in the class and had the support of the administration on this issue.

    You cannot undermine the ability of the school to manage its own affairs - especially in the area of student safety.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Do you want your kids thinking that rules and laws don't apply to them? We have places for people like that, it's called prison.
    If a rule or law is wrong then I have no problem with my kids not obeying such. You don't get rid of bad laws/rules by sitting down and obeying them. Just ask Rosa Parks.
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