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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended - ABC News


    A central Ohio principal says she suspended a 10-year-old boy from school for three days for pretending his finger was a gun and pointing it at another student's head.The boy's father says it's the adults who are acting childish for suspending the boy from Devonshire Alternative Elementary School in Columbus last week.

    I'm with the dad on this one.
    Common sense is something in very short supply in our society today. Being it something as foolish as this or suspending another child for eating a pop tart into the form of a gun. I have only one question, are we ruled by simple minded idiots? Are simple minded idiots in charge of schools, government, police and other institutions? It sure seems so.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended [W:148]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Common sense is something in very short supply in our society today. Being it something as foolish as this or suspending another child for eating a pop tart into the form of a gun. I have only one question, are we ruled by simple minded idiots? Are simple minded idiots in charge of schools, government, police and other institutions? It sure seems so.
    A rush to judgement before knowing all the facts is pretty simple minded, too.

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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I'm sorry, but what is it exactly that you don't understand?

    Do you think the schools just make these rules arbitrarily for no reason? Aren't teachers allowed to teach without children trying to or pretending to kill each other in the classroom, anymore?
    What I don't understand is how you, and apparently these moronic educators, are trying to make the case that a finger pointed at someone is as potentially dangerous as a loaded weapon. I think schools make rules like this because they are lazy and don't trust the teachers and staff to be smart enough to be able to tell the difference between a pop tart or a finger and a real threat. It's the worst kind of knee jerk reactions.
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I dunno, whats so inappropiate and PC about shooting up a school?
    I can't find a citation anywhere, so can you provide a link that lists all of the schools that have been shot up by 10 year old boys using their fingers?
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    What I don't understand is how you, and apparently these moronic educators, are trying to make the case that a finger pointed at someone is as potentially dangerous as a loaded weapon. I think schools make rules like this because they are lazy and don't trust the teachers and staff to be smart enough to be able to tell the difference between a pop tart or a finger and a real threat. It's the worst kind of knee jerk reactions.
    It's a behaviour problem. The boy, Nathan was part of a larger group of boys that were playing cops and robbers in the classrooms, in the halls, all over the school, ignoring teachers, upsetting other students, disrupting class and creating an atmosphere of unruliness and chaos. Over the course of a month, the school sent out many letters to all the parents warning them of the problem and that there would be consequences if the behaviour continued. Nathan was the first boy to get caught and he admits he was warned. So what exactly is your problem? Do the teachers have a right to control the classroom in their care? Are they there to teach or babysit? Do you want them to be responsible for your kids? Then stop undermining and attacking them or your kids won't have any teachers or schools at all. Hard labor and low wages will be the future for your kids. Do you understand now or are your knees still jerking?
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I can't find a citation anywhere, so can you provide a link that lists all of the schools that have been shot up by 10 year old boys using their fingers?
    No, but I could probably find quite a few that were shot for pointing their middle finger.

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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It's a behaviour problem. The boy, Nathan was part of a larger group of boys that were playing cops and robbers in the classrooms, in the halls, all over the school, ignoring teachers, upsetting other students, disrupting class and creating an atmosphere of unruliness and chaos. Over the course of a month, the school sent out letters to all the parents warning them of the problem and that there would consequences if the behaviour continued. Nathan was the first boy to get caught and he admits he was warned. So what exactly is your problem? Do the teachers have a right to control the classroom in their care? Are they there to teach or babysit? Do you want them to be responsible for your kids? Then stop undermining and attacking them or your kids won't have any teachers or schools at all. Hard labor and low wages will be the future for your kids. Do you understand now or is your knee still jerking?
    IMO, based on your post then the child should have been suspended for , "ignoring teachers, upsetting other students, disrupting class and creating an atmosphere of unruliness and chaos. " after being warned.

    The pointing of the finger as a gun should have nothing to do with the suspension. I could blame it on the typical hyped reporting.

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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    IMO, based on your post then the child should have been suspended for , "ignoring teachers, upsetting other students, disrupting class and creating an atmosphere of unruliness and chaos. " after being warned.

    The pointing of the finger as a gun should have nothing to do with the suspension. I could blame it on the typical hyped reporting.
    The school didn't write the headlines. The father of the boy posted a video on youtube stating that was the reason. The letters sent out by the school said the boys were playing cops and robbers in the classroom. The article misled you, blame them. Now days you have to read more than one source to get the whole story because objective journalism is fast becoming a thing of the past.

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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Of course they should, we need the next generation of nosey little punks.
    So you support parents telling their kids NOT to follow school instructions on the safety policy. So what do you do when they get suspended for not doing so? Worse yet, what happens when they macho up like you trained them to do, ignore the school rules and something bad happens as a result of their ignoring school policy?
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    Re: Ohio Student Points Finger Like Gun, Is Suspended

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    No we are taking the position that the school should use their heads and their brains (it is school after all) to say is this a threat or kids play. No tolerance means no thinking which when it comes to school is a the ultimate irony.

    the school that fears thinking all in all not cool
    that is exactly what the school did. Obviously you do not agree with it, but that is what they did just the same. So if you disagree with a school policy you will instruct your kids to ignore it and even violate it. Wonderful. And some wonder why kids are unmanageable in school.
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