I think sometimes we can get so emotionaly invested in our particular political "side" that people can't possibly dare to use a little common sense and understanding in a situation for fear of giving a little inch...
Look, if the kid was "pointing his finger like a gun" accompanied by other evidence of threatening, bullying, taunting a particular kid then I can understand the suspension...not becuase of mimicing a "gun" but because bullying/threatening another student is absolutely a legitimate reason for suspension. Anyone suggesting that said movement CAN'T be used as a threatening gesture is being amazingly dishonest. For example, lets look at movies. Anyone remember this in Gran Tornio?
What was it's purpose? It was Eastwoods character attempting to intimidate and threaten the teens. Or more specifically, when he does it to the passing car of those giving his neighbor a hard time (who he later goes to their house, specifically with the point of making them think he had a gun).
On the flip side....
If it's simply because he was "mimicing a gun", that's a bit ridiculous. There's plenty of ways to do the finger gun motion without it being reasonable to take it as threatening or dangerous in any degree. And abscent any significant supporting evidence into the issue, suspending someone simply for making that motion...even if it's towards another kid...is a bit over the top. Going to movies as a reference again, it'd be ridiculous to suggest someone using the finger guns like Shooter McGavin is somehow threatening or indicating any level of danger or discomfort for a student:
The problem is...and this is largely been caused by both sides over the year...schools have entered into such a "zero tolerance" ground that often nuance and context are hardly able or even desired to be used.
If we're arguably SINGULARLY about the finger gun, we're being a bit ridiculous here unless there's some evidence or reason to suggest that the suspension was because of that alone and specifically becuase it "resembles a gun".
"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
The only finger gesture I got in trouble for involved the middle digit.
Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
But that's not the issue. Children can be difficult, yes. Yet that isn't want the suspensions and expulsions were for. They were for an adult social agenda and a harmful one.
Yes, my message was overstated to make a point. The point is that school officials will destroy a child's academic history not for grades, lack of attendance or legitimate misconduct, but for intolerant and unrealistic even to believe all child could comply with some adults using the school for their social agenda.
The second sentence added to the first one says the entire school district is a disaster. If Devonshire school is worse than 78% of schools in the state, BUT is better than over 65% of the other schools in the district?
Time to get rid of the school officials who believe school is their personal political and social-left goals and instead have school officials who are educators.
What ridiculous propagnda are you basing your opinion on?Yes, my message was overstated to make a point. The point is that school officials will destroy a child's academic history not for grades, lack of attendance or legitimate misconduct, but for intolerant and unrealistic even to believe all child could comply with some adults using the school for their social agenda.
It wasn't just the one boy doing it, it was a group of boys playing a cop and robber game that didn't belong in the classroom. If it was just one incident I'm sure the school could have handled it just fine, but the problem extended over the course of a month throughout the school and with several letters going out to parents, notifying them of the problem and the repercussions for their kids. Nathan was the first to get caught and suffer the consequences. It's not like he wasn't warned and he admits that himself. So instead of blaming the teacher for trying to do her job, why not let the little lad start to grow up and take responsibilty for his actions...or isn't that allowed in today's society anymore?
Last edited by Moot; 03-05-14 at 04:42 PM.