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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Succeeding or failing in a goal that you haven't proven that he actually has. You just said something funny and alarmist.


    That is true. It is difficult to tell if this loser has any goals at all.

    The country that is suffering from his lack of direction and goals is hurting.

    I foolishly assume that he has the goal of creating an environment in which the American people can prosper and be safe.

    You astutely have pointed out that he has never demonstrated that he has any goals in these areas at all.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    That is true. It is difficult to tell if this loser has any goals at all.
    Oh? I thought you said his goal was the weaken the US?
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Oh? I thought you said his goal was the weaken the US?


    I was judging his goals by the real world results.

    That is unfair. You are correct. He has not demonstrated that he has any goals whatever to improve anything in the real world for the country. As such, it is not fair to judge him by any standard that would measure improvement.

    If we assess his results as representing his goals, then my statement is correct, but that makes an assumption. We can't assume that his goal is to do what he is doing. Our only justified assumption is that what he is doing is what he is doing. His inmost motivations are known but to him.

    Your sig line is a good one.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I was judging his goals by the real world results.
    So you assumed he was very effective in his goal? So he succeeds where he wants to?
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    So you assumed he was very effective in his goal? So he succeeds where he wants to?


    You have astutely recognized that judging either success or failure is impossible to calculate when a man has no goals.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    You have astutely recognized that judging either success or failure is impossible to calculate when a man has no goals.
    Its fun to watch you squirm and argue in circles trying to get your story straight.

    Just admit it, you're like everyone else that constructs everything they hate about politicians, presidents, whatever is in their head, then you attach it to Obama just because.

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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    You have astutely recognized that judging either success or failure is impossible to calculate when a man has no goals.
    Then it was kinda silly of you to state that he had the goal of weakening the US, huh?

    Perhaps you should've just said "I want to insult Obama. Insert insult here."
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Of course, the poll would have been conducted in Iran or Russia or China . Are you sad that the Soviet Union lost the Cold War and not that evil Americans?
    Wtf are you talking about?
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by poliphil View Post
    Don't know who this guy is, but he apparently thinks this conflict is going to lead to ww3 since Russia is positioning itself to control Ukraine before US exerts its influence over it. You guys think it's possible?

    The Road to World War III Runs through Ukraine | Dave Hodges The Common Sense Show
    If it's possible? Sure.

    Likely? Probably not.

    However, I am afraid it might happen. I'm not expert enough to make an educated guess. Too much information is missing on my side. And how educated are even the educated guesses of experts? Do they really see "the whole picture"? Do they really know what's being debated behind closed doors?

    Sure, that may sound paranoid. Maybe it is. But then ... many in Britain and France would have said the same thing about a prospect of WW2 still even in 1938.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by German guy View Post
    If it's possible? Sure.

    Likely? Probably not.

    However, I am afraid it might happen. I'm not expert enough to make an educated guess. Too much information is missing on my side. And how educated are even the educated guesses of experts? Do they really see "the whole picture"? Do they really know what's being debated behind closed doors?

    Sure, that may sound paranoid. Maybe it is. But then ... many in Britain and France would have said the same thing about a prospect of WW2 still even in 1938.
    I really believe that if the West leaves Putin alone, he'll not do much else. Please remember, he's the one responding, not the aggressor as Hitler was in 38'. I don't think these Hitler/WW2 comparisons are helpful.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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