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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    A weakening US has been in progress for a few decades, its inevitable, and its not going to reverse in 16, even if a republicans in the White House.


    The country and its place in the world is very similar to the country and its place in the world as the Carter administration was winding down.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Then why would we be up in arms if Iran wants nukes?


    The point of this is that Iran will not be deterred from getting Nukes.

    Unless they are blind, they have watched what has happened.

    Whether we are upset or not, we are impotent to affect Iran's intentions.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    What are the other options?
    You...don't know them? It could be that your goals and his are not the same. It could be that your idea of how he's done in achieving his goals are not the same as his. It could be that your idea of what has transpired could be different from other people.

    Like maybe he wants the US to be the best in exactly the same ways you want it to be the best, using the exact same measurements, but he just sucks at getting things done. And so many other options in between. Maybe you suck at thinking what the best is? And so many options in between.

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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    The point of this is that Iran will not be deterred from getting Nukes.

    Unless they are blind, they have watched what has happened.

    Whether we are upset or not, we are impotent to affect Iran's intentions.

    Good, as it should be.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, I don't. But you'll find several here that do. They'll be the ones making comparisons between Putin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin........!
    Obama does remind me some what like that of Joseph Stalin.

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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Since you're comparing Obama to stalin, didn't Stalin commit genocide in eastern Ukraine and repopulate with Russians?
    The same Russians who want to secede from Ukraine today ?
    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Obama does remind me some what like that of Joseph Stalin.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    WW III. Hardly. I doubt a shot will ever be fired. The Europeans are doing nothing about it and it isn't really any of our business. Things will eventually calm down and Crimea will be part of Russia again.
    I think this just about sums up my thoughts on this.

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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Even if Ukraine had nukes, it wouldn't have used them in this crisis, so it's irrelevant.
    It wouldn't need to because this crisis wouldn't have happened.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    It's mostly the Israeli lobby pressuring Washington to be up in arms about Iran. Israel does not care about America's domestic priorities such as helping struggling Americans find jobs or watching the Mexican border.
    Except that in a global poll, Americans considered Iran the biggest threat to world peace, that's how well US government propaganda works on the domestic audience. The rest of the world considers the US to be the greatest threat to world peace.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    The point of this is that Iran will not be deterred from getting Nukes.

    Unless they are blind, they have watched what has happened.

    Whether we are upset or not, we are impotent to affect Iran's intentions.
    Good, we've caused enough harm with our "strength"
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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