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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    oh lol


    If he's been working toward a strengthened economy, enhanced international standing, increased rights for individuals, even handed enforcement of the laws and a solid economic foundation o0n which future generations may build and he is failing miserably in all of these areas.

    Word on the Liberal street is that this guy is the most intelligent and capable president we've ever had.

    Are you saying he is succeeding or failing in achieving his goals?
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    We don't disagree?? Although, I don't know that a weakened USA is Obama's "goal".


    If it's not his goal, somebody better let him know that everything he is doing is leading to that singular end.

    If it's not his goal, you'll have to tell me what his actions indicate he is striving to achieve.

    Words are cheap. Deeds are precious.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Even if Ukraine had nukes, it wouldn't have used them in this crisis, so it's irrelevant.


    North Korea has Nukes and we don't invade. If you have Nukes, you have territorial integrity. If you don't have nukes, you don't have territorial integrity.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    When has krauthammer not endorsed war?

    Lately.

    He sees that the current international situation is beyond our ability to interfere. He has said repeatedly of late that we don't have the capability of using military force effectively.

    You will have to link to Dr. K saying that he endorses war. I don't recall the last time he did so. How long ago was it?
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    the USA, i. e. the people, have always been weak, because they don't have any $$ to participate in their govt.

    Now, if you're talking about the US government, it is also weak because it's military is obviously inept (after more than 10 years, it has failed to accomplish any of its long-term objectives against a primitive fighting force in Afghanistan), and it's a plutocracy--to defeat the US govt., one simply has to threaten one of the rich private influential individuals and/or corporations that sponsor its members of Congress, and voila.


    "We the people" stopped being the government with the rise of the two party system. We no longer have any say whatsoever over what happens in Washington DC. The lying thieves who people the elected offices are the tools of the money they crave.

    If we ever intend to have a representative Republic again, it will require the dissolution of the Washington DC Oligarchy.

    Right now we are a mob of subjects who are controlled by the lying thieves that steal our money and pretend to disagree.

    Obama, as an example sees no enemies outside the borders. The only enemies he recognizes are the Republicans.

    This coming election is the most important one in the history of the republic and every election after this one is either another brick in the dam against the rising tide of authority controlling us or additional links in the chains that are eliminating individual liberty.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Are you saying he is succeeding or failing in achieving his goals?
    Do you think those are the only two options? Try to channel your inner Obama and be "liberal street intelligent" enough to see what other options might exist.
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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    If it's not his goal, somebody better let him know that everything he is doing is leading to that singular end.

    If it's not his goal, you'll have to tell me what his actions indicate he is striving to achieve.

    Words are cheap. Deeds are precious.
    A weakening US has been in progress for a few decades, its inevitable, and its not going to reverse in 16, even if a republicans in the White House.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    North Korea has Nukes and we don't invade. If you have Nukes, you have territorial integrity. If you don't have nukes, you don't have territorial integrity.
    Then why would we be up in arms if Iran wants nukes?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Then why would we be up in arms if Iran wants nukes?
    It's mostly the Israeli lobby pressuring Washington to be up in arms about Iran. Israel does not care about America's domestic priorities such as helping struggling Americans find jobs or watching the Mexican border.

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    Re: World War 3 possible Ukraine-Russia?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Do you think those are the only two options? Try to channel your inner Obama and be "liberal street intelligent" enough to see what other options might exist.


    What are the other options?
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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