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    Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Here we go boys and girls. Putin has officially bitch slapped obama and thumbed his nose at the United States and the world. This is how world wars start and this is what obama's make America weak policy has got us.


    "The American and Russian presidents spoke on the phone for 90 minutes on Saturday after Russia's parliament voted unanimously to deploy troops in Ukraine, defying warnings from Western leaders not to intervene." Saturday's developments come as Russian troops and their local allies have already largely taken control of Crimea, a restive province of Ukraine that belonged to Russia until 1954 and remains predominantly pro-Russian.
    In a statement after the call between Mr. Putin and Mr. Obama, the White House said the U.S. "condemns Russia's military intervention into Ukrainian territory."
    Mr. Putin told Mr. Obama that Russia reserved the right to intervene in Ukraine to protect its interests and those of the Russian-speaking population there, according to a statement from the Kremlin.
    Mr. Putin also spoke of "provocations, crimes by ultranationalist elements, essentially supported by the current authorities in Kiev." It wasn't clear what incidents Mr. Putin was referring to.
    In Moscow, Russian lawmakers also asked Mr. Putin to recall the country's ambassador to the U.S. On Friday,


    Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine - WSJ.com
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    Not sure how the title of this thread got screwed up, it's supposed to be this, maybe a mod could fix it.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Here we go boys and girls. Putin has officially bitch slapped obama and thumbed his nose at the United States and the world. This is how world wars start and this is what obama's make America weak policy has got us.

    "The American and Russian presidents spoke on the phone for 90 minutes on Saturday after Russia's parliament voted unanimously to deploy troops in Ukraine, defying warnings from Western leaders not to intervene." Saturday's developments come as Russian troops and their local allies have already largely taken control of Crimea, a restive province of Ukraine that belonged to Russia until 1954 and remains predominantly pro-Russian.
    In a statement after the call between Mr. Putin and Mr. Obama, the White House said the U.S. "condemns Russia's military intervention into Ukrainian territory."
    Mr. Putin told Mr. Obama that Russia reserved the right to intervene in Ukraine to protect its interests and those of the Russian-speaking population there, according to a statement from the Kremlin.
    Mr. Putin also spoke of "provocations, crimes by ultranationalist elements, essentially supported by the current authorities in Kiev." It wasn't clear what incidents Mr. Putin was referring to.
    In Moscow, Russian lawmakers also asked Mr. Putin to recall the country's ambassador to the U.S. On Friday,


    Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine - WSJ.com
    I'm just curious. Although this wouldn't be an exact parallel, do you think we'd listen to Russia if we sent troops into Mexico to protect American interests there?

    I don't.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm just curious. Although this wouldn't be an exact parallel, do you think we'd listen to Russia if we sent troops into Mexico to protect American interests there?

    I don't.
    What makes this different is we would not take over Mexico and install a pupett president. Putin is rebuilding the Soviet empire and obama's "reset" policy has been a huge failure. If Reagan was pres Putin would not do this.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Here we go boys and girls. Putin has officially bitch slapped obama and thumbed his nose at the United States and the world. This is how world wars start and this is what obama's make America weak policy has got us.


    "The American and Russian presidents spoke on the phone for 90 minutes on Saturday after Russia's parliament voted unanimously to deploy troops in Ukraine, defying warnings from Western leaders not to intervene." Saturday's developments come as Russian troops and their local allies have already largely taken control of Crimea, a restive province of Ukraine that belonged to Russia until 1954 and remains predominantly pro-Russian.
    In a statement after the call between Mr. Putin and Mr. Obama, the White House said the U.S. "condemns Russia's military intervention into Ukrainian territory."
    Mr. Putin told Mr. Obama that Russia reserved the right to intervene in Ukraine to protect its interests and those of the Russian-speaking population there, according to a statement from the Kremlin.
    Mr. Putin also spoke of "provocations, crimes by ultranationalist elements, essentially supported by the current authorities in Kiev." It wasn't clear what incidents Mr. Putin was referring to.
    In Moscow, Russian lawmakers also asked Mr. Putin to recall the country's ambassador to the U.S. On Friday,


    Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine - WSJ.com
    When a superpower makes a move to (re)take territory then you have very few choices even if your nation is also a superpower. What did Bush 43 do when Russia "took control of" Georgia? What, exactly, would you have Obama's telepromter do about this latest Russian adventure?
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    When a superpower makes a move to (re)take territory then you have very few choices even if your nation is also a superpower. What did Bush 43 do when Russia "took control of" Georgia? What, exactly, would you have Obama's telepromter do about this latest Russian adventure?
    We can't do anything militarily and I would not propose we do. The only reason Putin is doing this though is because he perceives obama as weak and easy to push around. Obama has thrown away all our leverage with his talk of a smaller military and less nukes. If we had a hawk pres trying to get approval for a larger military and better nukes Putin wouldn't do this because it would push congress over to our presidents side. Reagan defeated the Soviet Union with his strength and obama is letting it rebuild with his weakness.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What makes this different is we would not take over Mexico and install a pupett president. Putin is rebuilding the Soviet empire and obama's "reset" policy has been a huge failure. If Reagan was pres Putin would not do this.
    I would think Putin would be more concerned about why we put a dead man in office.

    What, exactly, do you think Obama should do? Turn Moscow into cinders?
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    If Reagan was pres Putin would not do this.
    I think there is a vast difference between Gorbachev and KGB agent Putin. So it is hard to say what difference would it make if Reagan were in office or for that matter if Truman was in office.

    Since you are unhappy with Obama here, what would you propose we do? Would you send our troops into the Ukraine?

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm just curious. Although this wouldn't be an exact parallel, do you think we'd listen to Russia if we sent troops into Mexico to protect American interests there?

    I don't.
    No cause we sent cash and equipment instead to Mexico. The Cartels still rule.
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What makes this different is we would not take over Mexico and install a pupett president. Putin is rebuilding the Soviet empire and obama's "reset" policy has been a huge failure. If Reagan was pres Putin would not do this.
    Based on what evidence would we not do exactly you said, if Mexico had stuff we wanted?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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