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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Last time we did it to Mexico was Polk's war, a democrat.
    Who was president almost 200 years ago.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    We spend more on our military than the next 20 countries combined and this guy thinks it needs more money.
    What else do you expect from "cut taxes and spend" conservatives?
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    Thanks for the laugh.
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    BULL****. Jimmy Carter initiated our efforts in Afghanistan. All Reagan did was drop the Mooj like a hot potato once the Russkies pulled out. Nice attempt at revisionist history, but it was Carter who started that.
    Funny how in one breath you libs give Reagan all the blame for creating UBL then in the next breath give Carter credit for arming the Afghan freedom fighters against the USSR.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Who was president almost 200 years ago.
    What does that have to do with Polk's war?

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What does that have to do with Polk's war?
    Why is the face that he was a Democrat relevant?
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Funny how in one breath you libs give Reagan all the blame for creating UBL then in the next breath give Carter credit for arming the Afghan freedom fighters against the USSR.
    "You libs"? Go ahead and find the post where I said that. I'll wait.
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Why is the face that he was a Democrat relevant?
    Because politics and politicians demand polarization to stay at status quo levels or rise.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Why is the face that he was a Democrat relevant?
    It is not relevant to the OP just a drive by comment on somebody saying we take over countries all the time and would do so to Mexico.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Money.

    Plain and simple. Right now, he has to PURCHASE the goods he gets from them. Far easier and cheaper to just TAKE them.

    Why do companies but other companies?
    You may have a point. Russia is rich in oil and natural gas, which he feeds to Europe as long as they do what he says. Disobey and he stops the supply. Simple way to control the situation, since people need to stay warm. Will he do the same with the food supply?

    Greetings, KevinKohler.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : The Ukrainian people are not a down-trodden group like we see in so many parts of the world today. They have enjoyed their independence for a long time, and they are apparently not willing to once again be under a "big daddy" regime. I don't know what prompted Putin's move, other than the fact that he may want to recreate the old glory days of the Czars and the USSR, and have everything under Moscow's thumb.

    Putin has decided on Crimea as his target, and it makes me wonder why. The country is rich in natural resources, though, plus it provides much of the food for the rest of the country since the land is excellent for farming. Is it a power grab for food resources in the future? Everyone becomes a peon again like in the old days, with centralized planning from Moscow? Interesting...

    Greetings, humbolt.
    Putin is intent on securing their warm water ports in order to exert ever more influence over the entire area. Portraying the west as weak and unreliable serves his interests fully in that regard. Right now as we leave Afghanistan, the only way to get our heavy equipment out of there is by rail through Russia unless we put our faith in Pakistan. Who of sound mind would do that? Further, Putin is additionally securing all those fuel pipelines which serve most of the countries to the west and can bring the EU to it's knees in a day. From his perspective, there's nothing to lose here. The timing was impeccable - right after the Olympics - an expression of international comity. Nobody was looking for that. Notice the speed with which Russia moved with all the circumstances required in place. I understand Ukraine is now mobilizing. They aren't a push over, but probably no match for the Russians in the end - which shouldn't take long to reach. Eastern Europe is no doubt doing a lot of soul searching right about now.

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