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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The positions obama has taken on a smaller military and getting rid of nukes.
    1. A larger military would do nothing to prevent Putin from taking the actions he is.

    2. Both the U.S. and Russia have gotten rid of SOME nukes, and both of us still have enough to reduce each other to ash 10 times over.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama has put America in a position of weakness and that is why Putin is doing this. Your answer is in post # 6.
    So far, no one's been able to explain to me what Obama could have done to avert Putin's move into the Ukraine. Can you?

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Mexico has stuff we want but we will never send in troops to take it.
    Because Mexico doesn't harbor a cult who's members engage in acts of terrorism all over the world, nor is it governed by a man engaging in genocide and amassing WMDs.

    But we did EXACTlY what you said to TWO middle eastern nations already.

    Did we seek Putin's permission to do so?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    We can't do anything militarily and I would not propose we do. The only reason Putin is doing this though is because he perceives obama as weak and easy to push around. Obama has thrown away all our leverage with his talk of a smaller military and less nukes. If we had a hawk pres trying to get approval for a larger military and better nukes Putin wouldn't do this because it would push congress over to our presidents side. Reagan defeated the Soviet Union with his strength and obama is letting it rebuild with his weakness.
    BS - then explain why Russia felt free to "invade" Georgia while "cowboy" Bush was busy spending billions in Iraq and Afghanistan? Russia will do pretty much whatever it wants, just as the U.S. does, as that is what superpowers do. After all, China (with its stellar human rights record) now enjoys most favorable nation status for trade with us.
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    LOL. Russia defeated itself. Reagan just happened to be the dude in office when it finally (inevitably) happened.....

    Unless it's your opinion the communism worked a great, and it was only through US presidential influence that it failed?
    Reagan was attacked by the left for his military build up and his nuke policy not to mention "star wars". The USSR was on shaky ground and Reagan pushed them over the edge. They would have survived a pres like obama and are in fact now rebuilding with obama in power.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So far, no one's been able to explain to me what Obama could have done to avert Putin's move into the Ukraine. Can you?
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    BS - then explain why Russia felt free to "invade" Georgia while "cowboy" Bush was busy spending billions in Iraq and Afghanistan? Russia will do pretty much whatever it wants, just as the U.S. does, as that is what superpowers do. After all, China (with its stellar human rights record) now enjoys most favorable nation status for trade with us.
    "cowboy Bush" was a liberal slur that I am surprised you are repeating. Bush was a very weak president and that was one of the reasons cons didn't like him and why his poll numbers were so low.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    A couple of days ago I saw a tweet by a celebrity that, paraphrased, said that Obama's statement about the Ukraine was either a stern warning to Putin or just a wish that we all had a nice weekend. Obama is hopelessly over his head in foreign policy because he doesn't understand the appearance of force in political relationships. To have power you have to look resolute with your allies and strong to your enemies. Obama is content to use drones as our primary military force because at home he gets good headlines and there is no downside because no troops are harmed. He only cares about domestic politics. If he was as good at leading as he is appearing to lead we'd have one hell of a president. Sadly, this is far from the case.
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Because Mexico doesn't harbor a cult who's members engage in acts of terrorism all over the world, nor is it governed by a man engaging in genocide and amassing WMDs.

    But we did EXACTlY what you said to TWO middle eastern nations already.

    Did we seek Putin's permission to do so?

    You are comparing Iraq and Afghanistan to what Russia- Putin is doing?

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Putin would not do this because he would know it would be just the excuse a strong pres in the USA is looking for to build up our military instead of tear it down as obama is doing.
    What does Russia care of our military might?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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