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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    well the premise from Cons has been if Obama wasn't president, which would mean Romney would have been, that this would not have happened.

    So yes, you did say that.

    Or if I'm incorrect are you saying that if Romney would have been president this wouldn't have happened?

    Well Romney campaigned on increasing the military not decreasing it. Romney was clearly more aggressive in that regard and even called out Russia as a potential problem in the future. Obama, not so much.

    So yeah, we can at least reasonably expect that the situation might be a lot different with "another" president at the helm.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    well the premise from Cons has been if Obama wasn't president, which would mean Romney would have been, that this would not have happened.

    So yes, you did say that.

    Or if I'm incorrect are you saying that if Romney would have been president this wouldn't have happened?
    Again, did I say that?

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Again, did I say that?

    Coukdn't wait to come to The Messiah's rescue. Huh?
    Nope I don't think Obama OR Romney would have done better. Nice try, your partisan hackery knows no bounds.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Well Romney campaigned on increasing the military not decreasing it. Romney was clearly more aggressive in that regard and even called out Russia as a potential problem in the future. Obama, not so much.

    So yeah, we can at least reasonably expect that the situation might be a lot different with "another" president at the helm.

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    Riiiiight, because there has NEVER been a case where a GOP member ran on something and didn't change their views.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm just curious. Although this wouldn't be an exact parallel, do you think we'd listen to Russia if we sent troops into Mexico to protect American interests there?


    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What makes this different is we would not take over Mexico and install a pupett president. Putin is rebuilding the Soviet empire and obama's "reset" policy has been a huge failure. If Reagan was pres Putin would not do this.
    Actually you are both correct.

    Yes, we would not listen to Russia if we felt our national interests were at stake.

    Yes, this would not have happened if Reagan was president.


    But the reason is because the "Reagan reset" was real, the "Obama reset" is a figment of a community organizer's imagination. A statement that did not require either action or results as long as it got him elected.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    Actually you are both correct.

    Yes, we would not listen to Russia if we felt our national interests were at stake.

    Yes, this would not have happened if Reagan was president.


    But the reason is because the "Reagan reset" was real, the "Obama reset" is a figment of a community organizer's imagination. A statement that did not require either action or results as long as it got him elected.
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Riiiiight, because there has NEVER been a case where a GOP member ran on something and didn't change their views.

    Hey you asked for the evidence that Romney would have been much better suited to handle this.. I gave it. Look, NE, you're on the wrong side on this one. Even moderate libs are soul searching ATM. You can excuse this guy until you're blue in the face. Many of us knew it right from the get-go, and many are coming to figure it out. Looks like you're still in the "Obama can move mountains" camp.

    Yeah he can move mountains of campaign dough, and tax payer's hard earned money into the hands of his constituents, but when it comes to looking our for America's best interests, well... The proof is in the $30,000 pudding served at one of his fund raisers.


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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Nope I don't think Obama OR Romney would have done better. Nice try, your partisan hackery knows no bounds.
    MY partisan hackery? YOU'RE the one that mentioned Romney!
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Hey you asked for the evidence that Romney would have been much better suited to handle this.. I gave it. Look, NE, you're on the wrong side on this one. Even moderate libs are soul searching ATM. You can excuse this guy until you're blue in the face. Many of us knew it right from the get-go, and many are coming to figure it out. Looks like you're still in the "Obama can move mountains" camp.

    Yeah he can move mountains of campaign dough, and tax payer's hard earned money into the hands of his constituents, but when it comes to looking our for America's best interests, well... The proof is in the $30,000 pudding served at one of his fund raisers.


    Tim-
    Im not excusing anything. Obama has been a lousy president but given the evidence Romney would have been just the status quo of bad presidents as well. Sorry you don't like the truth.

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