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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

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    Has The United States invaded other countries and murdered millions of people? Is the POTUS a former KGB colonel, that wishes to go back to the days of The Iron Curtain?
    It is not our fight.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It is not our fight.
    At what point would it becomes our fight? When the Russians cross the Danube? Fulda Gap? The Rhine? The Meuse? The Channel? When they begin murdering millions of innocents?

    Ignoring the situation could cost millions of lives. Addressing it now could, at worst, cost a few thousand...if any at all.

    This is the prelude to WW2 happening all over again. Nothing could be more clear.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Not much to do now. But when Ukraine became a NATO candidate in 2008 the opportunity to prevent this was on the table. I know it's hindsight, but the pursuit of better relations with Russia appears to be a hopeful approach to placate an international bully. It didn't work then, it won't work now, and it won't work tomorrow.
    Ukraine isn't a NATO country.

    Hence the current situation...

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    At what point would it becomes our fight? When the Russians cross the Danube? Fulda Gap? The Rhine? The Meuse? The Channel? When they begin murdering millions of innocents?

    Ignoring the situation could cost millions of lives. Addressing it now could, at worst, cost a few thousand...if any at all.

    This is the prelude to WW2 happening all over again. Nothing could be more clear.
    Although my knowledge on international conflicts is admittedly limited, I think the existence of enough nuclear bombs to destroy every living thing on earth ten times over...by both sides...is probably complicating the situation.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

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    Ukraine isn't a NATO country.

    Hence the current situation...
    Ukraine may become a NATO member, along with Georgia, which could change the dynamics significantly.
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ukraine may become a NATO member, along with Georgia, which could change the dynamics significantly.
    That's not looking very likely at the moment.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Although my knowledge on international conflicts is admittedly limited, I think the existence of enough nuclear bombs to destroy every living thing on earth ten times over...by both sides...is probably complicating the situation.
    Perhaps. Allied and Axis forces during WW2 both possessed enough chemical and biological weapons to make the entire globe uninhabitable, too. That reality was enough to keep Hitler from using them.

    A conflict in Crimea would most likely not see he use of nukes. 1) The US won't do it for moral and common sense reasons and 2) Russia won't turn it's latest prize into a nuclear waste land. The Crimea is far too important to Russia to do that.
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

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    That's not looking very likely at the moment.
    Which part?
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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Perhaps. Allied and Axis forces during WW2 both possessed enough chemical and biological weapons to make the entire globe uninhabitable, too. That reality was enough to keep Hitler from using them.

    A conflict in Crimea would most likely not see he use of nukes. 1) The US won't do it for moral and common sense reasons and 2) Russia won't turn it's latest prize into a nuclear waste land. The Crimea is far too important to Russia to do that.
    There's probably a good reason why Russian and the United States didn't get into a face-to-face shooting incident even once during the entire span of the cold war. I don't think that reason has changed terribly much since then.

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    Re: Russia Moves to Deploy Troops in Ukraine

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Which part?
    At the moment it's looking very likely that Ukraine will be absorbed within the influence of Russia (to put it nicely) too much for them to be thinking of NATO membership any time soon.

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