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    Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared
    By ALISON SMALE and DAVID M. HERSZENHORNMARCH 1, 2014
    ...Russian troops stripped of identifying insignia and military vehicles bearing the black license plates of Russia’s Black Sea force swarmed the major thoroughfares of Crimea and occupied major government buildings, closing the main airport and solidifying what had been a covert effort to control the largely pro-Russian region of Ukraine. In Moscow, Mr. Putin convened the upper house of Parliament to forcefully denounce President Obama and obtain authorization to protect Russian citizens and soldiers stationed in Crimea as well as other parts of Ukraine.

    Both actions, military and parliamentary, were a direct rebuff to Mr. Obama, who on Friday pointedly warned Russia to respect Ukraine’s territorial sovereignty...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/wo...e.html?hp&_r=0


    This is what happens when the US has a weak leader the world can read like an open book-the worlds less savory cats are comfortable openly punking us. Now I know those of us on the left love this thinking its a good thing for the US to lose influence, only to be replaced by violence and less savory characters like russia.

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    But obama said there would be consequences, that's some pretty tough talk. I'm sure Putin will never go up against obama.

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    And more hyperpartisan garbage in response to an actual issue. Shocking.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    And another thread on the Ukraine.
    After Putin just got lectured for 90 minutes by the President,
    Putin may be reluctant to endanger his G-8 summit in June in Sochi, a BFD for Putin.
    As long as APutin does what Obama said, we'll be fine, as with Syria .
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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared
    By ALISON SMALE and DAVID M. HERSZENHORNMARCH 1, 2014

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/02/wo...e.html?hp&_r=0


    This is what happens when the US has a weak leader the world can read like an open book-the worlds less savory cats are comfortable openly punking us. Now I know those of us on the left love this thinking its a good thing for the US to lose influence, only to be replaced by violence and less savory characters like russia.


    Heya Conservative. Yeah we got it here too.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...is-2014-a.html

    Of course then there isn't much room for the left to play with semantics and tangents in this one.

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Didn`t think that this kind of stuff would be possible in 21st century Europe.

    Naiv.....

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Didn`t think that this kind of stuff would be possible in 21st century Europe.

    Naiv.....

    Heya Gernman. Doesn't it seem like each group of people out there.....like want their own little state to run and control for themselves and their own people. Despite belonging to larger countries.

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This is what happens when the US has a weak leader
    Yeah, like Eisenhower.
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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Didn`t think that this kind of stuff would be possible in 21st century Europe.

    Naiv.....
    Lots of Europeans thought (think?) they're living in a world beyond violence. It's part of why they look down on brutish Americans. I find their idealism charming, personally.
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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Lots of Europeans thought (think?) they're living in a world beyond violence. It's part of why they look down on brutish Americans. I find their idealism charming, personally.
    I find your patronizing attitude funny, personally. Europe went through two world wars on their own soil, they know more about violence than Americans could ever imagine.

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