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Thread: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    And in doing so makes us look weak and impotent.
    Nope, to the rest of the world, it makes us look sensible.

    Only makes us look weak to the warmongering right wing loons who get their "knowledge" of the world from FauxNews and rush limbaugh.

    True, it's childish to threaten force and not back it up (i. e. speak loudly and carry a twig), but O has no choice; as a pol, he has to pacify the mindless warmongering right wing loons in Red State America, or else they'll go crazy.

    A POTUS stating "there will be consequences" is no different than an Iranian President threatening to "destroy Israel"--just political fluff to keep the ignorant, hateful right wing masses in one's country quiet, like giving a baby his bottle.

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Hmm..Russia invades Georgia and takes territories from them, now they are doing the same with Ukraine.
    Right, but what rush limbaugh never told you was that the region in Georgia Putin seized--south Ossetia--was staunchly pro-Russian, so the invasion was actually welcomed by those people.

    Ethnic Ossetians and Russians living in South Ossetia nearly unanimously approved a referendum on 12 November 2006 opting for independence from Georgia. The referendum was hugely popular, winning between 98 and 99 percent of the ballots, flag waving and celebration marked were seen across South Ossetia, but elsewhere observers were less enthusiastic.

    South Ossetia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Crimea is no different; it's largely pro-Russian.

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Hah. Stick around a while.
    the US might wanna finish "whipping ass" in Afghanistan first before it moves on to more adult conflicts. . .

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Right, but what rush limbaugh never told you was that the region in Georgia Putin seized--south Ossetia--was staunchly pro-Russian, so the invasion was actually welcomed by those people.

    Crimea is no different; it's largely pro-Russian.
    A region's stance does not change the sovereignty of their nation, if Texans for example were mostly pro-secession would you expect the rest of the Union to simply accept that and let them go? How about the entire south?
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    A region's stance does not change the sovereignty of their nation, if Texans for example were mostly pro-secession would you expect the rest of the Union to simply accept that and let them go? How about the entire south?
    Nothing would make educated Americans happier than for TX and its southern limbaugh-addicted red state brethren to secede from the Union

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Right on cue. Glory for mother Russia eh comrade?
    "Glory be to all nations." I'm not Xtian, but doesn't it say that in your Bible somewhere?

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    "Glory be to all nations." I'm not Xtian, but doesn't it say that in your Bible somewhere?
    Hmmm... not really.

    What Does the Bible Say About Nations?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Right, but what rush limbaugh never told you was that the region in Georgia Putin seized--south Ossetia--was staunchly pro-Russian, so the invasion was actually welcomed by those people.
    1: I don't listen to Rush. The only radio I listen to is a country station and then because its the only station that isn't some religious talk show or heavy metal crap...and even then I only listen to it on my 5 minute drive to work.

    2: That is idiotic reasoning to invade another country's sovereignty. Would you support Mexico invading the US because a part of it was staunchly pro-Mexico? How about China invading the US because there's a segment that is staunchly pro-China? How about N. Korea invading a part of S. Korea because there is a small segment that is Pro-N. Korea? Oh wait...there are a lot of Pro-American folks out there in the world...should we invade all of the countries segments that house those people? Your arguement here has to be the weakest and lamest arguement that I have ever witnessed on these boards.

    3: I noticed that you failed to address the very real fact that Russia is bound by treaty to NOT invade and take other countries territories.
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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Nothing would make educated Americans happier than for TX and its southern limbaugh-addicted red state brethren to secede from the Union
    Until they took all that oil and agriculture with them, not to mention of America's largest and safest ports.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Kremlin Clears Way for Force in Ukraine; Separatist Split Feared

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Right, but what rush limbaugh never told you was that the region in Georgia Putin seized--south Ossetia--was staunchly pro-Russian, so the invasion was actually welcomed by those people.



    Crimea is no different; it's largely pro-Russian.
    That's how Hitler justified invading Poland and Czechoslovakia.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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