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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    Oh look, an isolated incident in a completely different country with stricter gun regulation. I guess gun control doesn't work after all.

    What if I presented an incident where a knifing incident didn't kill anybody? 22 Kids Slashed in China Elementary School Knife Attack - ABC News
    Hmm, that was precisely my point.
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    Like so many other countries China has a problem with terrorists.

    Chinese police kill eight in Xinjiang 'terrorist attack' | Reuters
    And more terrorism, undoubtedly, will be coming to the US so, it's silly to address the tool instead of the problem. Limiting bullet capacity and cosmetics will not make anyone but criminals/terrorists safer.
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Flaws being that we already had a lot of gun control in place before the eventual complete ban of handguns so you can't draw a line like that.
    Did you look at my link? It explains that there is a lot more to it than that. AND, that kind of also supports that gun control doesn't decrease crime. Chicago had a high crime rate comparative to the rest of the country even before the ban, and I believe AFTER the ban, it got even worse. An elderly man who lived in a bad neighborhood actually sued the city (I believe it was Chicago - I'll try to find a link later), to get a handgun because he had been beat up and robbed multiple times.

    Actually, here's that link.

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/08/...irearm-permit/

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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    Hmm, that was precisely my point.
    No, only the second sentence in my post, which was directed more towards some of the major gun enthusiasts in this thread, helped your point.

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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    So, other countries with stricter gun control are safer as many have suggested?


    Take away one weapon and criminals will use another. Stop focusing on the tool.

    Speedy recovery to all victims.

    If he was armed like our mass murders are the death toll would be in the 100's so your point is a fail.

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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    What's Chinas intentional homicide rate?
    For what period? Yesterday 27-29 were intentionally killed with 109 -113 intentional attempted murder. Is there a magic number your looking for?
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    For what period? Yesterday 27-29 were intentionally killed with 109 -113 intentional attempted murder. Is there a magic number your looking for?
    Annually the claim was gun control doesn't work based off this one horrific attack, if that is true their annual homicide rate should be just as high as Americas given the fact they have a much larger population.

    It's also worth pointing out that being allowed to own and carry firearms hasn't stopped mass murder in the US either on the contrary you have one of the worst murder rates in the world.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie Loucks View Post
    No, only the second sentence in my post, which was directed more towards some of the major gun enthusiasts in this thread, helped your point.
    Obviously your missing OP point.
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Annually the claim was gun control doesn't work based off this one horrific attack, if that is true their annual homicide rate should be just as high as Americas given the fact they have a much larger population.

    It's also worth pointing out that being allowed to own and carry firearms hasn't stopped mass murder in the US either on the contrary you have one of the worst murder rates in the world.
    Where do the majority of our mass murders happen?
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Did you look at my link? It explains that there is a lot more to it than that. AND, that kind of also supports that gun control doesn't decrease crime. Chicago had a high crime rate comparative to the rest of the country even before the ban, and I believe AFTER the ban, it got even worse. An elderly man who lived in a bad neighborhood actually sued the city (I believe it was Chicago - I'll try to find a link later), to get a handgun because he had been beat up and robbed multiple times.

    Actually, here's that link.

    Elderly Man Suing City Over Denial Of Firearm Permit « CBS Chicago
    It gun control doesn't decrease crime then why are our murder rates at an all time low? In London the annual rate was 99 people which was the lowest since 1970. London is the safest it has been for over 3 decades, this is despite London's population growing bigger and more diverse over the last 30 years. London's population is 8,174,100 (census 2011) giving a London murder rate of 12.1 per million population in 2012.


    London Murders 2006 to 2014

    Let's Hold Off Celebrating America's (and New York's) Declining Murder Rate | Peter Dreier
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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