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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I've never heard of that either, but I didn't say anything because I don't know what happens in other schools in other states.
    Most of the "high security" schools are going to be right in the middle of cities with gang issues, I know many of those drill for everything, but then again they have metal detectors at the entrances as well.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Most of the "high security" schools are going to be right in the middle of cities with gang issues, I know many of those drill for everything, but then again they have metal detectors at the entrances as well.
    Some of those schools are really bad, probably more like prisons than schools when you think about it.

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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Some of those schools are really bad, probably more like prisons than schools when you think about it.
    No doubt about it.
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Victimization crimes are up in the U.K. according to INTERPOL, Nationmaster statistics, and other international reporting.
    Thats wasn't what was brought up, posters were talking about homicide rates and we have one of the lowest rates in the West.
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    This is the latest attack. There have been numerous knife mass attacks in China over the last year or so with double digit casualty counts, this one happened to involve more fatalities.
    But their homicide numbers are very low in comparison to the US.

    End of the day we are never going to agree on this, you feel safer living in a country where you can own a gun and I feel safer living in a country where we can't own one and don't have to. Gun control as a whole has worked in the UK but it happened over several decades. Gun control in the US would be a disaster because of reason previously stated in this thread.
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Some of those schools are really bad, probably more like prisons than schools when you think about it.
    except that prisons lock people in. The schools lock people out.

    It says a lot about our society when schools have to be surrounded by tall fences, barbed wire, and patrolled by armed guards.
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    But their homicide numbers are very low in comparison to the US.
    Have been for decades, including the gun friendly years. There was actually a slight uptick in firearm homicide in the U.K. after the bans. The U.S. has a problem with gang activity and prohibition(sometimes a combination of the two) but most of the homicide rates here are located in major cities around areas where illegal activity is prevalent and most of those involved by federal law aren't legally allowed to own a firearm in the first place(BTW, only murder and manslaughter should be in the criminal statistics. Intentional homicide can be a justifiable defensive homicide). Even with all of that our murder rates are less than a percentage of the total population.
    End of the day we are never going to agree on this, you feel safer living in a country where you can own a gun and I feel safer living in a country where we can't own one and don't have to. Gun control as a whole has worked in the UK but it happened over several decades. Gun control in the US would be a disaster because of reason previously stated in this thread.
    It's your country and I do the courtesy of saying that it's fine as to what your people want, I get offended when people in my country try to uphold it on specious grounds like crime control. It's not that simple, in general both of our countries are very safe, we have a crime related murder problem, the U.K. has a general violence problem "other".
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Thats wasn't what was brought up, posters were talking about homicide rates and we have one of the lowest rates in the West.
    Violence is intolerable at all levels, you can't have just general homicide without including factors involving other violence. Many who kill graduated from lesser violent crimes, and even then, assault, robbery, rape, burglary all can lead to a fatal end result. As well, and I've gotten on people before about this, homicide is the general killing of another which can be defensive or illicit, homicide is not a criminal action necessarily whereas murder and manslaughter are. An intentional homicide can be a defensive killing, however it can also be murder or manslaughter.
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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Most of the "high security" schools are going to be right in the middle of cities with gang issues, I know many of those drill for everything, but then again they have metal detectors at the entrances as well.
    Metal detectors, does great against a cabonfiber knife.

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    Re: Train station knife attack kills 27, injures 109 in China

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Metal detectors, does great against a cabonfiber knife.
    I know it, there are thousands of ways to defeat security and the people who want to cause harm know them better than security personnel.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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