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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm not sure you know what you're talking about here. We didn't vote for anything. This is a bill legislators in Arizona passed and has yet to be signed into law (the Governor does that in our system).
    With the "you voted for it", I was talking about the legislators that claim they it was a mistake and that the governor should veto it. I was stating that those legislators have to live with the choices their made and the negative responses to it and not try to squirrel out under it by asking for a veto.
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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, we hate discrimination. Just like a lot of Americans I would assume, something that has nothing to do with what country people come from or a governmental system.
    No, you discrimate differently that's all. Most of your laundry list is agreed to by folks worldwide. Sexual orientation is not one of those items. Plus, it varies widely from country to country what is actually considered discrimination. Also widely varied is the balance of competing rights.
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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    He means unjust, ignorant and stupid discrimination that infringes on the rights of others. You do understand that law is a matter of balancing rights, don't you?
    Exactly, there is no human right to discriminate. You may feel that being gay is not in accordance with your faith than that is your rights and you may proclaim that. However, denying people their civil and human rights purely based on your religious views someone's human right.
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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    With the "you voted for it", I was talking about the legislators that claim they it was a mistake and that the governor should veto it. I was stating that those legislators have to live with the choices their made and the negative responses to it and not try to squirrel out under it by asking for a veto.
    Why? That's absurd and for them to do that they wouldn't be doing their job. If they manufacture a flawed product by error and realose it then they need to do their best to keep that from affecting the public. That's just good sense. The product did not match their intent, and they were wise enough to recognise this, and so they stepped up and admitted their error. Couldn't ask for better.

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Exactly, there is no human right to discriminate.
    You gotta start putting "unjustly" before "discriminate", or some people will derail the discussion upon that semantic.

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    He means unjust, ignorant and stupid discrimination that infringes on the rights of others. You do understand that law is a matter of balancing rights, don't you?
    What rights are we speaking about again?

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Exactly, there is no human right to discriminate.
    How do you figure that?

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What rights are we speaking about again?
    The right to equal opportunity vs. the right to be a bigot.

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The right to equal opportunity vs. the right to be a bigot.
    The right to equal opportunity is not a human right. It's really just gibberish that must step on peoples rights to exist.

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, you discrimate differently that's all. Most of your laundry list is agreed to by folks worldwide. Sexual orientation is not one of those items. Plus, ot varies widely from country to country what is actually considered discrimination. Also widely varied is the balance of competing rights.
    I am sorry, but anti-gay discrimination goes against human rights. That some idiot countries like Uganda think they have the right to discriminate against gays (or worse) does not change the fact that they are violating human rights with their horrible actions against gays.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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