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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Yes but the Republicans managed to turn off a large number of women voters in the last election for Romney...by few truly substantial threats but lots of stupid **** like 'legitimate rape.'
    They won the majority of white women's votes. So if women, as a category, were fooled by the Democratic claims of Republicans engaging in a War on Women then were the majority of white women smarter than the rest and not fooled by the Democrats or were they duped and their smarter sisters saw the reality?

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, too late for that stuff. You voted for it and now have to pay the consequences. Hopefully those are electoral consequences and the idiots are voted out and replaced by more normal representatives (even republicans who are not that insane, this is not a pro-democratic or anti-republican thing for me).
    Fighting for human rights makes someone an idiot? That's a weird value system that you were raised in.

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Conservatives, why are you so afraid of gay people? Can't have them with clubs in schools, can't have them parading at Mardi Gras, can't have them playing football... What is so frightening about gays that you want to cut them out of society?
    No one wants to cut them out of society, we just don't want to be forced to love them.

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    You might have that opinion, I think discrimination on the basis of gender, sexual preference or color is not only totally and utterly immoral but also reprehensible and should not be allowed to take place. And I could care less that it is a private organization, private organization should not be allowed to discriminate.
    People will do things that we find personally detestable, but that doesn't mean they don't have the right to do those actions, nor does it mean the government should act towards those actions.

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well, too late for that stuff. You voted for it and now have to pay the consequences. Hopefully those are electoral consequences and the idiots are voted out and replaced by more normal representatives (even republicans who are not that insane, this is not a pro-democratic or anti-republican thing for me).
    I'm not sure you know what you're talking about here. We didn't vote for anything. This is a bill legislators in Arizona passed and has yet to be signed into law (the Governor does that in our system).

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You opinion is noted and probably consistent with your fellow countrymen and governmental system. Different story here.
    Yes, we hate discrimination. Just like a lot of Americans I would assume, something that has nothing to do with what country people come from or a governmental system.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Fighting for human rights makes someone an idiot? That's a weird value system that you were raised in.
    There is no right to discriminate. It is not a human right to deny someone the opportunity to play in the NFL purely based on his sexual preference. In the NFL are several players with criminal records but who are not barred from playing but there should be a right to discriminate?
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    There is no right to discriminate.
    It is one of the foundational human rights. The freedom to choose who you want to associate with in your life. You discriminate against people who you don't want as friends, even if they want to be your friend. You discriminate against shopping in one store because you don't like it for some reason and so you favor another store. You discriminate against a female physician because you prefer to be examined by a male physician. And so on. Freedom to associate CAN ONLY be exercised by discriminating in your choices.

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    People will do things that we find personally detestable, but that doesn't mean they don't have the right to do those actions, nor does it mean the government should act towards those actions.
    If the NFL should choose to ban gays from playing in the NFL it should face legal repercussions IMHO. There is no right to discriminate IMO and if private organizations illegally discriminate they should expect the government to stand up for the civil and human rights of those that are discriminated against.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: Powerful GOP lobbyist drafts bill to ban gay athletes from playing in the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    It is one of the foundational human rights. The freedom to choose who you want to associate with in your life. You discriminate against people who you don't want as friends, even if they want to be your friend. You discriminate against shopping in one store because you don't like it for some reason and so you favor another store. You discriminate against a female physician because you prefer to be examined by a male physician. And so on. Freedom to associate CAN ONLY be exercised by discriminating in your choices.

    He means unjust, ignorant and stupid discrimination that infringes on the rights of others. You do understand that law is a matter of balancing rights, don't you?

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