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America is fed up of me: Morgan to quit CNN job

That fact that neither hates America must be disappointing to you.

Yes because we all know only righties love this country. If only I was half the American that you are.
 
Morgan's problem is that he never recognized that HE was a moron, and attracted other morons.

I have watched several interviews that he had done, and he came across as smug little douchebag.

He has reaped what he had sown.

Although I'm sure you're right, I was referring to Alex Jones.
 
Good riddance, the transphobic douche.
 
God knows why people love talking head radio and tv show anchors. They aren't defending the Constitution, they aren't doing it to be pro-American. It's all about the money and the Cult of Personality. They want you to subscribe to their content, to buy their t-shirts, their ghost-written books, and to define your political will through their lens. It doesn't matter who it is. That's their goal.

When you spend a lot of time buying into their talk, all it's doing is harming your intellectual growth.

I'm not asking anybody to love them. But in order to do all that you accuse them of, they have to be able to attract a measurable audience. Limbaugh, Hannity, et al can do that. Morgan couldn't. That's why Limbaugh and Hannity prosper, and Morgan will be needing a new job.
 
I'm not asking anybody to love them. But in order to do all that you accuse them of, they have to be able to attract a measurable audience. Limbaugh, Hannity, et al can do that. Morgan couldn't. That's why Limbaugh and Hannity prosper, and Morgan will be needing a new job.

Rush and Hannity have an established market ... angry white males. People who feel "their" country is being taken away from them by minorities, women (or, as Rush likes to call them, "sluts" or "Feminazis") and, worst of all, Democrats.

They feed on the entitlement of their audience. Morgan never had that, because even the most liberal person on the planet can recognize he's a douchebag. Fans of Rush and Hannity don't care -- as long as those fans' problems are being inflicted on them by the liberal scourges, Rush and Hannity can say what they please without angering their fanbase.

ANECDOTE TIME: During the mid-to-late 1990s, my grandmother lived next door to me and my folks. And she'd always have Rush on the radio. Now, she wasn't a full on dittohead (although if she was still alive she'd STILL claim Bill Clinton had Vince Foster killed), but the stuff that came out of Rush's mouth was unreal. His entire show was telling angry white males how they're getting dicked over. Which, of course, is asinine.

Nothing I've seen or heard since has led me to believe anything has changed one iota. Sure, he's got female and minority listeners, but that's not his target audience. And Hannity is Rush with that extra bit of Irish belligerence I know all too well from my extended family.
 
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Rush and Hannity have an established market ... angry white males. People who feel "their" country is being taken away from them by minorities, women (or, as Rush likes to call them, "sluts" or "Feminazis") and, worst of all, Democrats.

They feed on the entitlement of their audience. Morgan never had that, because even the most liberal person on the planet can recognize he's a douchebag. Fans of Rush and Hannity don't care -- as long as those fans' problems are being inflicted on them by the liberal scourges, Rush and Hannity can say what they please without angering their fanbase.

ANECDOTE TIME: During the mid-to-late 1990s, my grandmother lived next door to me and my folks. And she'd always have Rush on the radio. Now, she wasn't a full on dittohead (although if she was still alive she'd STILL claim Bill Clinton had Vince Foster killed), but the stuff that came out of Rush's mouth was unreal. His entire show was telling angry white males how they're getting dicked over. Which, of course, is asinine.

Nothing I've seen or heard since has led me to believe anything has changed one iota. Sure, he's got female and minority listeners, but that's not his target audience. And Hannity is Rush with that extra bit of Irish belligerence I know all too well from my extended family.

I don't want to hijack this thread and turn it into yet another "I hate Rush Limbaugh" thread complete with all the assigned silly talking points to condemn him that become sooooo old because they are sooooo dishonest. I don't care if you hate Rush Limbaugh. A lot of people do. Knock yourself out.

But the fact is that for 25 years he has been able to attract the #1 market share in his genre in virtually every market in this country, and in most markets the #1 market share among all genres. Loathe him, trash him, hate him, make up all kinds of nonsense to say about him, and don't forget to use the 'angry white males' assigned talking point several times--I can trot out all the other hate slogans referring to Rush if you want--but he nevertheless is No. 1 in his field and has enjoyed a quarter century of great success doing what he does.

Piers Morgan, whose rhetoric is about 180 of Rush's, couldn't pull a tiny fraction of Rush's audience and is looking for a new job.

And that's it.
 
Yes because we all know only righties love this country. If only I was half the American that you are.

You probably aren't.
 
I actually don't like the guy. But let's not pretend hacks like Hannity and Limbaugh are any better.
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Certainly your posts will reflect more inner peace and contentment with the knowledge that Hannity has been replaced and outscored in 50 radio stations this year. Apparently he has been falling in popularity.

Gaining in popularity and replacing Hannity on all 50 stations is a mild, retiring young fellow named Michael Savage. Savage is now Número Dos behind Rush Limbaugh.

That is all. Carry on.
 
I don't want to hijack this thread and turn it into yet another "I hate Rush Limbaugh" thread complete with all the assigned silly talking points to condemn him that become sooooo old because they are sooooo dishonest. I don't care if you hate Rush Limbaugh. A lot of people do. Knock yourself out.

But the fact is that for 25 years he has been able to attract the #1 market share in his genre in virtually every market in this country, and in most markets the #1 market share among all genres. Loathe him, trash him, hate him, make up all kinds of nonsense to say about him, and don't forget to use the 'angry white males' assigned talking point several times--I can trot out all the other hate slogans referring to Rush if you want--but he nevertheless is No. 1 in his field and has enjoyed a quarter century of great success doing what he does.

Piers Morgan, whose rhetoric is about 180 of Rush's, couldn't pull a tiny fraction of Rush's audience and is looking for a new job.

And that's it.

That's very true. He plays to an audience, and he does it well. I detest Rush Limbaugh's audience far more than I detest Rush himself.

And I detest Piers Morgan too.
 
That's very true. He plays to an audience, and he does it well. I detest Rush Limbaugh's audience far more than I detest Rush himself.

And I detest Piers Morgan too.

Holy cow, you don't like anybody do you? I don't spend much time listening to Rush these days, but because he is on the #1 station locally and where I generally travel, his program will be running in the background or on the car radio when he is on. So I often catch bits and pieces of his commentary. And they are almost always interesting and informative. So I guess that makes me Rush audience and you can put me on your list of people to hate.

However, I will admit I haven't spent a lot of time with Piers. I tuned in a couple of times to see how he was doing and it was positively agonizing how boring and annoying he is in that genre. As an AGT judge he was tolerable playing the 'hard hearted pompous ass' role much as Simon Cowell effectively played that role on American Idol. But he was not tolerable doing an interview program on CNN.
 
Holy cow, you don't like anybody do you? I don't spend much time listening to Rush these days, but because he is on the #1 station locally and where I generally travel, his program will be running in the background or on the car radio when he is on. So I often catch bits and pieces of his commentary. And they are almost always interesting and informative.

Let me guess. You're an angry disenfranchised Middle Aged white guy, right?
 
Let me guess. You're an angry disenfranchised Middle Aged white guy, right?

No. Probably no longer classified middle class since retirement, but certainly not disenfranchised, and certainly not a middle aged white guy, and not angry at all. You certainly do a lot of assumption about who people are, what they think, what they mean, what they intend, what they want, don't you.
 
No. Probably no longer classified middle class since retirement, but certainly not disenfranchised, and certainly not a middle aged white guy, and not angry at all. You certainly do a lot of assumption about who people are, what they think, what they mean, what they intend, what they want, don't you.

No. Just seeing if you are in his target audience.
 
No. Just seeing if you are in his target audience.

His target audience are people with ability to appreciate humor, understand metaphors and satire, who can think critically, who care about America and the principles it was founded on, and who will forgive his occasional straying over the line into bad taste and/or political incorrectness and when he occasionally gets something wrong; i.e those who will allow him to be human. So based on my own opinion as stated, I suppose that makes me one of his target audience even though I probably don't listen to more than 15 minutes a week of his program.

Piers Morgan, by contrast, failed because he insulted the intelligence of his audience and therefore lost most of it.
 
That's very true. He plays to an audience, and he does it well. I detest Rush Limbaugh's audience far more than I detest Rush himself.

And I detest Piers Morgan too.

I detest all of them. Far too many get their brains filled with the crap that they all peddle instead of actually thinking for themselves.

I will miss Piers thought. Calling him every dirty name I could think of used to be my evening entertainment a couple of times a week.
 
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Certainly your posts will reflect more inner peace and contentment with the knowledge that Hannity has been replaced and outscored in 50 radio stations this year. Apparently he has been falling in popularity.

Gaining in popularity and replacing Hannity on all 50 stations is a mild, retiring young fellow named Michael Savage. Savage is now Número Dos behind Rush Limbaugh.

That is all. Carry on.

Sorry. It was Hannity's increase in popularity that generated the moves. Our local No. #1 station had him immediately following Rush and moved him over to anchor their sister station and boost ratings there. Hannity has almost caught up with Rush in the ratings though Rush is expected to hold on to his #1 spot.

I will say that Savage's fortunes have improved with him moving from #13 three years ago to #5 now.

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The Top Talk Radio Audiences : TALKERS.COM

And Piers Morgan couldn't hold a candle to anybody on that list which is why he is out of a job.
 
Sorry. It was Hannity's increase in popularity that generated the moves. Our local No. #1 station had him immediately following Rush and moved him over to anchor their sister station and boost ratings there. Hannity has almost caught up with Rush in the ratings though Rush is expected to hold on to his #1 spot..

What this tells me is that old angry white conservative guys like to listen to the radio. I bet all the advertisements are for gold coins, Depends, prostate drugs, and crotch talcum powders.
 
Sorry. It was Hannity's increase in popularity that generated the moves. Our local No. #1 station had him immediately following Rush and moved him over to anchor their sister station and boost ratings there. Hannity has almost caught up with Rush in the ratings though Rush is expected to hold on to his #1 spot.

I will say that Savage's fortunes have improved with him moving from #13 three years ago to #5 now.

audiencechart_february14.jpg

The Top Talk Radio Audiences : TALKERS.COM

And Piers Morgan couldn't hold a candle to anybody on that list which is why he is out of a job.

Not sure what you're sorry for......

I know you have a link there, but I'm just not sure that is true.

Hannity has even taken a bit of a hit on his TV show with losing an hour to Megan Kelly. I have no idea where you stand, but I prefer Savage's passion and directness whereas Hannity seems to have become more conversational with all callers and lost a lot of Conservative passion. Hannity is a nice guy, but I don't believe he has kept pace with the more impatient and confrontational mood of the right. Hannity also allows his far left guests, such as Tamara Holder, to on on forever with their lunacy. Savage doesn't have that problem.

As far as O'Reilly goes on television, I don't think he can even claim to be a Conservative any more. I'd prefer to skip him and wait for Megan Kelly and Hannity to come on.
 
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What this tells me is that old angry white conservative guys like to listen to the radio. I bet all the advertisements are for gold coins, Depends, prostate drugs, and crotch talcum powders.

Ha! One can see the success of talk radio when it results in this sort of pathetic, bitter whining. Chin up Amigo, all will soon be better.
 
Sorry. It was Hannity's increase in popularity that generated the moves. Our local No. #1 station had him immediately following Rush and moved him over to anchor their sister station and boost ratings there. Hannity has almost caught up with Rush in the ratings though Rush is expected to hold on to his #1 spot....

audiencechart_february14.jpg

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The one on that list that honestly excites me is Dave Ramsey. It would be a fantastic thing if America by and large spent the next decade or two getting ourselves out of household debt.
 
What this tells me is that old angry white conservative guys like to listen to the radio. I bet all the advertisements are for gold coins, Depends, prostate drugs, and crotch talcum powders.

Actually Ramsey generally abuses the idea of investing in gold on a semi-daily basis.
 
The one on that list that honestly excites me is Dave Ramsey. It would be a fantastic thing if America by and large spent the next decade or two getting ourselves out of household debt.

Ramsey is the exception here. He dispenses basic financial common sense (with a subtle sprinkling of Jeebus). Of course, if you dont learn everything you need to know from about three of his shows, I dont know how one functions in the world. Spend less, save more. Its not rocket science.
 
Not sure what you're sorry for......

I know you have a link there, but I'm just not sure that is true.

Hannity has even taken a bit of a hit on his TV show with losing an hour to Megan Kelly. I have no idea where you stand, but I prefer Savage's passion and directness whereas Hannity seems to have become more conversational with all callers and lost a lot of Conservative passion. Hannity is a nice guy, but I don't believe he has kept pace with the more impatient and confrontational mood of the right. Hannity also allows his far left guests, such as Tamara Holder, to on on forever with their lunacy. Savage doesn't have that problem.

As far as O'Reilly goes on television, I don't think he can even claim to be a Conservative any more. I'd prefer to skip him and wait for Megan Kelly and Hannity to come on.

Whatever you think of O'Reilly, he is still king of cable television in his particular genre, head and shoulders above all the others, including his fellow Fox hosts. Even the late night repeat of his show pulls more market share than almost all others do in prime time. Fox did do a shake up of their evening lineup and that has affected ratings distributed among their four prime time hosts, but all four are still leaving their competition on other cable networks in the distant dust.

And if you can find a better source than TalkersMag and Arbitron for talk radio ratings, go for it. But they are considered the authority in that genre.

The fact is that Fox News is simply a much more respected and interesting news and commentary source than any other cable news source. And the fact is that CNN lost a lot of ground by using people like Piers Morgan to compete against the Fox lineup. Nobody with a brain respects much of anything MSNBC does, but at least they aren't boring for the ideologically extreme angry left, and CNN's loss has been Fox and MSNBC's gain.
 
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The one on that list that honestly excites me is Dave Ramsey. It would be a fantastic thing if America by and large spent the next decade or two getting ourselves out of household debt.

His star has been rising. He has an easy delivery style with content that can hold interest. Though he will comment sometimes when a politician says something really stupid, and as nearly as I can tell, he is a pure classical liberal (i.e. modern American conservative), he doesn't get into partisan politics all that much and that allows him to have a much broader base than he otherwise would likely have.

Piers Morgan could take lessons. :)
 
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