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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    So when a police officer turns on his lights and is responding to call, it's illegal for them to speed?
    They weren't responding to a call.

    Try and discuss the actual event.
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    NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you obviously didn't read the OP. he was caught going through 2 or 3 stops signs. going 15 miles/h over the speed limit. please read the OP so that you know what we are discussing.
    i didn't assert anything it is in the very 1st post of this thread.

    now you have to prove that the mayor and his driver in a non-emergancy situation is allowed to break traffic laws. you are going to have a very hard time doing this.
    True enough.

    Police in OH are required by OH law to follow all traffic laws when not responding to emergencies.

    I'd bet that NY is similar.
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I didn't say he went through "many"; I said he was in an residential area where, typical for NYC, there are many stop signs. And it's not like he's in a bus or a train with darkened windows. It's a SUV! He's not oblivious...or maybe he is
    So in an area where there are many stop signs he is filmed not coming to a complete stop at two. His driver must know the routes with very few stop signs.

    An SUV with darkened windows, and as I have said before, if he was working he may not have known he arrived at his office until told to get out. Hell for all anyone knows he was catching 40 winks.

    You ASS-U-Me waaaaay too much in this.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Then don't ASS-u-me so much about what did and didn't happen, holding someone to a higher standard requires YOU have a higher standard to follow in accusing...

    oh wait, no you don't- we are online.... my bad....
    Are you really saying that - online or not - it is inappropriate to criticize a politician that seems to flout the very laws that he preaches?

    That's all I did you know. My comments in the thread were apolitical. It was reported that a politician was touting traffic safety and then didn't seem to feel that he was subject to those regulations or ideas. I did criticize him for that. So, instead of making this about me, or my rights of criticism, how about telling me why I'm wrong and why he should not be subject to criticism. I'm amenable to explanation - if I'm wrong to do this and you make a good case why, I'll retract my statements. That's the "debate" part of this.

    FWIW, I also criticized his predecessor, albeit for other reasons. That is what we do here. I hope you're not defending him because he belongs to a party that you support. I'm an equal opportunity politician-basher.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    So in an area where there are many stop signs he is filmed not coming to a complete stop at two. His driver must know the routes with very few stop signs.

    An SUV with darkened windows, and as I have said before, if he was working he may not have known he arrived at his office until told to get out. Hell for all anyone knows he was catching 40 winks.

    You ASS-U-Me waaaaay too much in this.
    I assumed nothing. His driver broke the law and he is responsible. It is particularly noteworthy given the fact that he has launched a campaign about driver and pedestrian safety. You can excuse it all you want, but many people are going to see it differently than you. There's no doubt that this story will hurt him politically
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Oh me too, don't get me wrong. I'm not holding police officers up as paragons of virtue, I'm just pointing out that there are specific circumstances where they are permitted to do things others are not, and that when they do so they are not flouting or showing disdain for the law.

    There are a veritable smorgasbord of examples of police officers who do in fact flout or showing disdain for the law. I'm just saying I don't think this is necessarily one of them.
    Mr. De Blasio is a mayor, not a police officer. If he hadn't been preachy on the topic, this event would have gone unnoticed by everyone.

    IMHO, this was hypocritical, not catastrophic. He's not a paragon of evil. But he set a poor example on a topic he seems to be promoting. I'm not calling for the death penalty, just recognition of a false face.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    It could be if it deals with the saftey and welfare of a city of millions of people. Most jobs don't carry that kind of responsibility.
    No, sorry. If you need to be someplace at a certain time to do your job, you do what everybody else does -- you hit the street early enough to get there on time. Failure to do doesn't give you the right to break the law, it just means you suck at your job and should be replaced.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They weren't responding to a call.

    Try and discuss the actual event.
    You acted like the simple act of speeding is a violation of the law. I pointed out a clear example where speeding is not a violation of the law, because the speeder in question has the legal authority to speed.
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    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    If he wasn't driving the gotcha report is entirely lies. Had he been just another citizen and been pulled over on every one of those offenses (not likely of course for any citizen), absolutely nothing would have happenned to the passenger's license. Now, for comparison they should have followed a cabbie and a town car around for the day.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You acted like the simple act of speeding is a violation of the law. I pointed out a clear example where speeding is not a violation of the law, because the speeder in question has the legal authority to speed.
    It is a violation of the law. Your example does not apply to this event.
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