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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Unless of course he/she was an on duty police officer performing his/her duties. That of course is the case here.
    I have yet to see anyone post any evidence that the mayor's driver was allowed to break the law under the circumstances that existed in this event.
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have yet to see anyone post any evidence that the mayor's driver was allowed to break the law under the circumstances that existed in this event.
    Haven't yet seen any evidence that any law was broken here in the first place. Other than perhaps by the muckraking crew doing the following. By your position, the Secret Service and law enforcement officers on duty everywhere would be cited near continuously.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Unless of course he/she was an on duty police officer performing his/her duties. That of course is the case here.
    wrong it doesn't matter if they are on duty or not. unless they are responding to an emergency or a call they are still required to obey any and all traffic laws.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Haven't yet seen any evidence that any law was broken here in the first place. Other than perhaps by the muckraking crew doing the following. By your position, the Secret Service and law enforcement officers on duty everywhere would be cited near continuously.
    I have already posted the link which shows it is illegal to go through stop signs, speed and change lanes without signalling

    Article 30 - NY Vehicle and Traffic Law - Speed Restrictions
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Haven't yet seen any evidence that any law was broken here in the first place. Other than perhaps by the muckraking crew doing the following. By your position, the Secret Service and law enforcement officers on duty everywhere would be cited near continuously.
    he ran through 2 or 3 stop signs and was speeding 15 mpg over the speed limit in is breaking the law traffic laws.
    they are not responding to an emergency situation they do not have permission to break traffic laws.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I never said a traffic code violation is criminal. I said that violating it was against the law. BTW, you can be put in jail for speeding. And I did Google the story and found one by CBS but it had no link or description of the rules concerning when and why police officers can disregard the law.

    Mayor de Blasio’s Caravan Caught Speeding, Violating Traffic Laws « CBS New York
    name the cases where someone can go to jail for speeding... (hint only when speeds or actions are considered reckless, eluding, failure to stop for law enforcement) this case was not one where jail would be considered unless other factors come in, so you are quibbling.

    The text has the NYPD statement where it says security details have the discretion. You seem to want a list of things cops can/can't do in order to see if security details can violate traffic code. Do you know of such a list or just wanting there to be one?

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    name the cases where someone can go to jail for speeding... (hint only when speeds or actions are considered reckless, eluding, failure to stop for law enforcement) this case was not one where jail would be considered unless other factors come in, so you are quibbling.
    I believe it's when someone's speed exceeds the limit by more than 15 mph.


    The text has the NYPD statement where it says security details have the discretion. You seem to want a list of things cops can/can't do in order to see if security details can violate traffic code. Do you know of such a list or just wanting there to be one?
    No, the text has no statement saying that the security details have the discretion to do what it did.
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Following your rationale, he could use illegal drugs like crack, weed, heroin etc. which just about everyone does and gets away with. Why were Barry and Ford so criticized for smoking crack, a kind of nebbish drug?

    When you want to be a leader, you are supposed to set a good example.

    That is my opinion©. Maybe I'm being unfair?
    Well there's a difference that one is speeding and the other is using highly illegal drugs that impact a person's mental state. Apples and oranges. Just because two things are illegal doesn't mean I have to have the same standard in my tolerance of them especially if they are so different.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    wrong it doesn't matter if they are on duty or not. unless they are responding to an emergency or a call they are still required to obey any and all traffic laws.
    Protection detail, on duty, is considered be "on a call". Lights and sirens are not necessary for police to meet this bar.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have already posted the link which shows it is illegal to go through stop signs, speed and change lanes without signalling

    Article 30 - NY Vehicle and Traffic Law - Speed Restrictions
    As I've already informed you, your link is inaccurate. It shows A PORTION of NY STATE law, NYC has exemptions and get to make their own traffic code.

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