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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Yes, or no: Is it your assertion that it is illegal for police officers acting in an official capacity to exceed the speed limit?
    you don't read very well do you. yes it is illegal for a police officer to break any traffic law unless he is responding to an emergency. that would mean that he has lights and sirens on.
    since a police officer on duty or even off duty can act in official capacity he still has to follow the traffic laws.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

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    I accept your surrender
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    you don't read very well do you. yes it is illegal for a police officer to break any traffic law unless he is responding to an emergency. that would mean that he has lights and sirens on.
    since a police officer on duty or even off duty can act in official capacity he still has to follow the traffic laws.
    Spotted your subsequent post, thought I edited it in fast enough to avoid confusion, apologies. Please go up and re-read.
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    BTW, for those of you who think these illegal maneuvers were justified by the need for security - Our previous mayor used to commute to work on the NYC subway.
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You're free to engage in whatever hallucinogenic fantasies you like, it doesn't change the fact that there's no point in having a discussion with you when you are incapable of answering a simple yes-or-no question about your position.
    Gee, another response from you? And here I thought you said we were done

    I do not answer "Do you still beat your wife?" questions. They are dishonest, just as your leading question was dishonest.

    BTW, since you seem to think these illegal maneuvers were justified by the need for security - Our previous mayor used to commute to work on the NYC subway.
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Gee, another response from you? And here I thought you said we were done
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I'm not a big fan of people lying about me, and you lied about me when you implied I surrendered. Quit with the lies and I won't have to respond in order to clear up your deception.
    I implied nothing. You said you were done, and that *was* a surrender. That's not an implication; It's a statement of fact

    Now quit with the dishonest questions and post some evidence that what they did was legal
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Yes, or no: Is it your assertion that it is illegal for police officers acting in an official capacity to exceed the speed limit?

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    Can you point me to the portion of the law that restricts this authority specifically to circumstances when lights and siren are employed? This isn't a strawman, to me it's the whole point, because the protection detail is being provided by on-duty police officers.
    this is common knowledge i don't have to point out anything. you have to point out where they can break the law which they can't. they are under the same laws as everyone else unless they are responding to an emergency.

    it doesn't matter if they are on protection detail or not. they are still required to follow any and all traffic laws.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    traffic laws are still laws this is what we call nit picking. the fact still remains that the driver of the SUV broke traffic laws in a non-emergancy situation in which any other person would be cited with moving violation and given that the speed was 15 mph or more over the speed limit probably reckless endangerment.

    his license would be suspended.
    Unless of course he/she was an on duty police officer performing his/her duties. That of course is the case here.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    traffic laws are still laws this is what we call nit picking. the fact still remains that the driver of the SUV broke traffic laws in a non-emergancy situation in which any other person would be cited with moving violation and given that the speed was 15 mph or more over the speed limit probably reckless endangerment. his license would be suspended.
    'We' call it nitpicking? Some of we call it silly whining. but let's play, first NO ONE can cite anyone but a LE who witnessed the violation.(red light cameras are an exception) A citizen sees a car weaving in traffic and speeding, he calls 911 to report the car got off at a rest stop, the Cop arrives, but unless the Cop sees it he can't write it so no points for the driver, or any driver who changes lanes without signalling caught on civilian tape.

    Now you are correct about a uniform cop having to obey traffic code when not on a call. (it isn't limited to emergency and he doesn't have to run on lights and siren as there are times a cop doesn't announce he is coming.)

    You may not like it, but security details can and do receive special freedoms- if no one is endangered- to ensure they minimize risk. the NYPD has issued such a statement. Now should this be changed- I don't think so but I have a feeling the 'treat everyone the same' crowd does- have fun having at it...

    I don't like 'duty' cops and highway patrol doing 20 over the speed limit- but a charge of reckless endangerment might be difficult to make stick- LE gets advanced training in driving...

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