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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Actually that's the NY state code, NYC has an exemption and makes it's own traffic codes. But even the state has exemption to those codes for workers on state/city business. Otherwise police and traffic control workers would be boned in the performance of their duties.
    I've seen no evidence that the mayor's driver is exempt from the rules
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You reframed the question by pointing to a portion of the law which essentially says that it's illegal for anyone to speed and declared your burden of proof met. Yes, or no: Is it your assertion that it is illegal for police officers acting in an official capacity to exceed the speed limit?
    It is your assertion that the mayor's driver is allowed to speed and go through stop signs, an assertion you have yet to prove.
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

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    There is no reason for anyone to engage in discussion with you on any topic where there is a party affiliation involved. While many of your messages on other topics are excellent and thought out, there is no truthfulness nor integrity in your messages if there is a partisan element.
    Umm, the NYC Mayor is very liberal and I am criticizing his actions.
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, you are. The laws which regulates drivers are laws. They are part of the legal code NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law | VTL Regulations I have seen no evidence that the mayor's driver is allowed to ignore the law.I've assumed nothing. Well I assumed one thing - that until someone proves otherwise, the mayor's driver is required to obey the law.
    My bad on laws, in Oklahoma traffic is part of the civil code, not the law.

    You didn't read the CBS article with the breaking news story, it is online and the police department explains the latitude the LEOs are permitted in safeguarding their charges.

    Like I said, catch him driving and running stop signs and speeding THEN ya have something. But an official VIP security detail does have latitude.

    But go read the NYPD press releases on the matter. Does that prove the otherwise for you?

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    I suppose he should follow the speed limit exactly (he was going like 10mph over), and then blame any failures on missing deadlines due to traffic. I suppose you would rather the business of the city wait for traffic to clear out.

    I'm not saying that you don't have a point, I just disagree about how big this issue actually is.
    Yeah, the OP said 40 in a 30 and 60 in a 45, the 40 was in a residential area and not sure about where the 60 was along with running some stop signs. I do not think this was big news in the main stream media, but here on DP, it would be. Perhaps in NYC. Somewhere along the line our leaders forgot how to lead by example. It doesn't matter which party, the "Do as I say leader and not as I do," has become so numerous of late, it is hard for me to define them as leaders as all. Just people filling leadership positions.
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It is your assertion that the mayor's driver is allowed to speed and go through stop signs, an assertion you have yet to prove.
    Yes, or no: Is it your assertion that it is illegal for police officers acting in an official capacity to exceed the speed limit?
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    My bad on laws, in Oklahoma traffic is part of the civil code, not the law.

    You didn't read the CBS article with the breaking news story, it is online and the police department explains the latitude the LEOs are permitted in safeguarding their charges.

    Like I said, catch him driving and running stop signs and speeding THEN ya have something. But an official VIP security detail does have latitude.

    But go read the NYPD press releases on the matter. Does that prove the otherwise for you?
    The civil code is just as much a part of the law as the criminal code is.

    As far as the CBS article goes, I didn't see the link. If you repost the link, I will read to determine if it applies.
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Yes, or no: Is it your assertion that it is illegal for police officers acting in an official capacity to exceed the speed limit?
    It is your assertion that the mayor's driver is exempt from the law - an assertion you have yet to prove
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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    What I am really saying is it is inappropriate for those ignorant of even the basics (it is a violation of civil code not the law) to attempt to comment on things they know not of.

    The politician wasn't driving, did he order the driver to roll stop signs and speed?

    I can and will take to task those who are ignorant of the facts, and or misapply them.

    You ASS-U-Me way too much, and forget the Mayor is a target to be protected. Like I told another poster, catch him driving his own vehicle violating civil code and ya got something.

    Now who said I wanted you to retract a damn thing? Leave that crap up there for all to see. Ignorance and misstatements, but I DAMN sure can rely.

    When it comes to 'supporting' the Mayor, ya can kiss my shiny hiney, around here 'New York City' is said as a cuss word. I have little concern for big city anybodies, no matter their political lean, pay grade, job title.
    OMG. Do you mean that every time anyone puts an opinion up here they have to study the legal codes? Like preparing for trial? I'm sorry to be unable to meet your high standards.

    I think the Mayor did the right thing and should be applauded for it.

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    Re: NYC mayor's SUV caught breaking traffic laws

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Here is your first post in the thread:



    Your first post in this thread was an assertion of fact that the driver broke the law. It is your obligation to back up your assertion and you have failed to so.
    read the OP so that you know what you are talking about. if you don't read the OP then you don't know what we are discussing and have 0 support for anything that you say.
    if you had read the first post in this thread like i have then you would already know
    that the driver of the car went through 2 or 3 stop signs and was speeding up to 15 mph over the posted speed limit. that is breaking the law.

    so you are the only one in this thread that has failed to backup their assertion.

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