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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Demonocratic party is the party of the KKK you knew that right?
    Yes, it's a party of slave masters and racists. KKK and segregation. Party of Obama and Carter.

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    This is age-old political strategy. Divide and conquer. This stuff works. Look at the liberal strategy of shoving multiculturalism down our throats. They've even come up with the insane slogan of "Diversity is our strength" and gotten people to buy into that hokum. So no disagreement from me that this is a well known and effective strategy.
    The Great American Experiment. I wouldn't mind seeing it succeed...at least as long as the Roman Empire did.

    What I'm in the dark about is how conservatives are employing this principle to keep "minorities or any ethnic group in a state of poverty and chaos in order to control them." I agree with you that this would be an effective way of achieving that goal, but how, exactly, are they doing this?
    The Southern Strategy.

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The Southern Strategy.
    Sorry, but while that appears to be a self-evident answer to you, it leaves me in the dark with respect to your claim of "keeping minorities or any ethnic group in a state of poverty and chaos in order to control them."

    HOW does the Southern Strategy DO that?

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    The Great American Experiment. I wouldn't mind seeing it succeed...at least as long as the Roman Empire did.
    We're doomed to failure, I fear. Look about the world and point out ANY multicultural societies which are prospering over the long term. Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Belgium, Czechoslovakia, the USSR, the Ottoman Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, South Africa, etc. Where are these successful multicultural societies?

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    I think what this thread demonstrates is that some right wing people will selectively look at which party endorsed what and when while ignoring the last 50 years of racial relations in the US. One poster, presumably from Stormfront, keeps trying to shove this message into the thread: The Democrats are racist because of what they did in the 1950s and before. Well, alright. I'll bite and ask this question: What happened to all of those Southern Democrats? Well, if we are to follow many sources: They became Republicans. Many prominent Republicans even admitted to this fact:

    RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes

    "By the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out," Mehlman says in his prepared text. "Some Republicans gave up on winning the African American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."
    So, long story short, as the Democrats started making gains with black voters, Republicans started exploiting racial tension in order to gain the silent (white) majority's vote. In essence, the opponents of racism have now become benefactors of it. They'll scream foul at the claim that they, as a party, would purposely engage in divide and conquer tactics to gain support. Except of course:

    CNN.com - Bush calls for ban on same-sex marriages - Feb. 25, 2004

    President Bush endorsed a constitutional amendment Tuesday that would restrict marriage to two people of the opposite sex but leave open the possibility that states could allow civil unions.
    So how did a party that was basically known for this in the South:



    Become the leading party? Did Northern Liberals (the biggest supporters of ending slavery) suddenly move South while Southern Democrats moved up North? Nope. Republicans, unable to stop their losses in the North, turned to the South. The same region that supported slavery, Jim Crowe and segregation now supports ending welfare programs (that admittedly benefit blacks and hispanics far more).
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born | CNS News

    (CNSNews.com) In 2012, there were more black babies killed by abortion (31,328) in New York City than were born there (24,758), and the black children killed comprised 42.4% of the total number of abortions in the Big Apple, according to a report by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene.

    The report is entitled, Summary of Vital Statistics 2012 The City of New York, Pregnancy Outcomes, and was prepared by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, Office of Vital Statistics. (See Pregnancy Outcomes NYC Health 2012.pdf)

    I bet the demonocratic party is so happy their agenda is working.
    I for one think its so sad
    Margaret Sanger would be proud as hell that her Negro Project is succeeding.
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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    So advocacy without the power to implement policy safeguards an organization from being declared racist. Is that a fair summation of your point? If so, what power does the KKK have to implement the policies which they favor?



    The NAACP lobbies politicians, they sue in court to advance their policy goals, they lend their voice in court to work against Affirmative Action reform laws, so they are actively working to influence laws and government in support of their brand of racism. You're saying that this doesn't count as racism so long as they don't have the authority to implement on their own.



    You're wrong on this, but let's pretend that you're correct. A court can make a declaration but that declaration doesn't take precedence over reality. A court can say it's not discrimination to displace a qualified white applicant for admission to university in favor of a lesser qualified black candidate, but the reality is that a qualified white applicant is denied admission and a lesser qualified black candidate is admitted in his place. That's plain old, simple to see, simple to understand, discrimination. The Court saying otherwise is just a legalistic hair splitting, and what it is not is a definition of reality.
    Your entire argument is worthless when you attempt to equate the KKK with the NAACP - suggestions of such equivalency is either incredibly dishonest or incredibly ignorant. I won't stoop into that gutter and argue against it since that will serve no purpose.

    Secondly, and for the last time, I'll point out that advocacy for one group of people is not, by definition, advocating against any or all other groups. The NAACP advocates for, not against. Racism requires both a belief that one is different from and better than others based on race. If anything, the NAACP believes that black people are no different from and are just as good as all others. Advocating for equality is hardly racism.

    Thirdly, your description of "affirmative action" as it relates to university admissions is actually racist. You claim that white applicants are more qualified for admission than black applicants that win placement - as I understand it, the policies require that all applicants be qualified for admission but that additional consideration is given to bringing into line the demographics of the student body with the demographics of the community it serves. It encourages minorities to apply for admission on the basis that they will be treated equally and fairly where in the past they may have been prejudicially handled.

    Finally, I have to say, personally, as a conservative, I encourage any attempts to lift the socially and economically disadvantaged in order to help them become responsible, contributing members of society. I'd much rather give disadvantaged people a "hand up, rather than a hand out". Education is the number one way in which socially and economically disadvantaged people can improve their situation. Do you also object to university admissions policies that provide grants and scholarships to students who can't afford tuition? Clearly, if student one has to pay the full shot and student two gets a free or partially free ride, student one isn't receiving a benefit student two gets. In your view, student one is being discriminated against - in my view, the school is levelling the playing field for some deserving students who would otherwise miss out.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Name me some.
    Corporate tax cuts that encourage hiring, welfare-to-work reform, so on and so forth.

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Embargo, travel restrictions, diplomatic isolation.
    1) How does that differ from the Democrats?

    2) How has that worked out so far? Think of it this way: USSR - way bigger than Cuba by a long shot, we had diplomatic relations, collapsed. Cuba, N. Korea, Iran - no relations, look who's still in power.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

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    It's so rough for you isn't it?
    Nobody in the whole wide world is more persecuted than white, Christian, American, Conservative men.


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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post



    We're doomed to failure, I fear. Look about the world and point out ANY multicultural societies which are prospering over the long term. Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Belgium, Czechoslovakia, the USSR, the Ottoman Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, South Africa, etc. Where are these successful multicultural societies?
    Belgium's doing quite well actually. The Russian Federation is still one of the most ethnically diverse states in the world and with few exceptions, without violence. The Czechs and Slovaks didn't descend into violence between each other (except on the hockey rink).

    On the other hand, one of the major nails in Yugoslavia's coffin was the rise of a nationalist Serb government that wanted to create an empire and get rid of everybody that wasn't a Serb. Which is exactly what you're talking about for us.


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