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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Okay. I know that white people can join. Take this dude for instance.
    Good catch, but it's mostly beyond the point. Almost all organizations have rules in place to preserve the goals and character of the organization in order to prevent a highjacking from occurring. This was a favorite tactic of American Communist back in the 20-50s. They'd join an organization, scope it out, then they'd organize a mass enrollment where they constituted a majority of the members, call for elections, vote themselves into office, subvert the mission of the organization and reorient it towards some Communist mission and they'd deplete the resources of the organization and then abandon it.

    I'm pretty sure that the NAACP has some provision in its charter to prevent the KKK from mass enrolling, taking over the NAACP and then spending the NAACP resources on KKK propaganda.

    Christian groups on college campuses often admit people who are not Christian but who are curious or working towards adopting the faith. Same with Muslim groups, same with Mormon groups. What they object to, and what college administrator push on them, is to allow such people to lead groups and to change the mission of the group to be more inclusive.

    The NAACP is not race-inclusive in its mission even though it admits some token whites either as spectacles, as supporters of the mission, or as some form of observer.

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Good catch, but it's mostly beyond the point. Almost all organizations have rules in place to preserve the goals and character of the organization in order to prevent a highjacking from occurring. This was a favorite tactic of American Communist back in the 20-50s. They'd join an organization, scope it out, then they'd organize a mass enrollment where they constituted a majority of the members, call for elections, vote themselves into office, subvert the mission of the organization and reorient it towards some Communist mission and they'd deplete the resources of the organization and then abandon it.

    I'm pretty sure that the NAACP has some provision in its charter to prevent the KKK from mass enrolling, taking over the NAACP and then spending the NAACP resources on KKK propaganda.

    Christian groups on college campuses often admit people who are not Christian but who are curious or working towards adopting the faith. Same with Muslim groups, same with Mormon groups. What they object to, and what college administrator push on them, is to allow such people to lead groups and to change the mission of the group to be more inclusive.

    The NAACP is not race-inclusive in its mission even though it admits some token whites either as spectacles, as supporters of the mission, or as some form of observer.
    It sounds like you/he are making an assumption then.

    I don't really see how it's relevant anyway. This organization was created to provide assistance to a very targeted group and the needs of that specific group. If they "don't allow" white people to pursue leadership positions I really wouldn't care because they are a community service organization helping their members not a hate group seeking to do anyone harm. Equating it to the KKK is just a nutty deflection.
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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Okay. I know that white people can join. Take this dude for instance
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    How do you know that they are not allowed to run for leadership positions?
    I said nothing about members. I have been saying they are a racist organization.
    period even their stated goal is racist

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    It sounds like you/he are making an assumption then.
    Perhaps, but votemout's point mostly stands. It is racist when a group discriminates based on race. You've just pointed to membership, but a group can discriminate on race by focusing on policy.

    Your picture of the white NAACP member has a doppelganger - the black dudes who joined the KKK. Sure, they let these guys join, but are you going to argue that the KKK is now not racist?

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Mental Hygiene, that's where they scrub your mind erasing any trace of judgment or reason by forcing you to watch an endless loop of Rush Limbaugh. You come out with the functioning IQ of a new born baby
    Or listen to Obama read from TOTUS for 24 hrs straight... yeah, got the concept. You'd come out a registered Democrat.

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Any bets this is some people's favorite part?

    The report is entitled, Summary of Vital Statistics 2012 The City of New York, Pregnancy Outcomes, and was prepared by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, Office of Vital Statistics.

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    They've been doing so well voting for your whore of a party.

    It's damn near criminal what you've done to them.
    If blacks are voting democrat, then aren't they doing it to themselves?

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Perhaps, but votemout's point mostly stands. It is racist when a group discriminates based on race. You've just pointed to membership, but a group can discriminate on race by focusing on policy.
    I don't think it does. I it as a matter of qualifications.

    Unless you can provide evidence that they don't allow white people to apply for leadership positions this conversation is a waste of time.

    White guy photo, fine. They still let white people join.
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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    This is common false outrage prolifers try to use, while their messages continue to condemn African-Americans as some OTHER people separate from white people you.

    Do only black rappers have violence in their songs. No. BUT you ONLY hate and condemn black rappers.

    Do only African-Americans have abortions? No. But you only condemn African-Americans.

    Every message you have makes one thing clear. To you, African-Americans are OTHER people, not YOUR people, for YOU judge them collectively as if they are a completely different species. To you, African-Americans are 100% all some collective OTHER than you white people THEM.

    For that reason, your messages are just what you see as a clever tactic that persuades no one and nothing else.
    Sez the poster who refers to 'profilers' in the opening line.

    Define 'profilers,' please.

    Is it THOSE PEOPLE who disagree with you?

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    Re: "NYC: More Black Babies Killed by Abortion Than Born " This is so sad

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    You can't selectively define what racism means. Look again at the definition that votemout posted. Discrimination or prejudice based on race. Votemout's point is that a white person can't join NAACP and run for leadership because he is white. This means that the 2nd definition applies. NAACP discriminates based on race. This qualifies them as racist.
    Sorry to jump into the argument, but for you to be correct, you'd have to look at the definition of "discrimination" as well. What does the NAACP do that is based on prejudice against another race? They promote the interests of black people, agreed - but how do they "discriminate" against others?
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