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    Re: Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What if I didn't come up with any conclusion at all? Some people wait before they have a single sentence of information from a known bull****ter like the OP before they make an opinion.

    Crazy I know.
    Since you came into the thread believing the OP to be a "known bull****ter" it would appear you drew a conclusion. You couldn't even hide it for two sentences.
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    Re: Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    This happened recently. I happen to live in the south and hear stories about the days before and during the civil rights movement and the only person I know of who was associated with the KKK is ..... a Democrat Senator.
    That figures since Democratic Party membership was required for KKK membership in those days. And no, those guys didn't run to the Republican party, they stayed where they were for the most part. They just changed tactics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    So there's a possible indication that two white guy may have had something to do with it, but nothing concrete...but there's not even a possible indication that it was a false flag operation, other than in the minds of those who want to believe it.
    Sorry, but that sort of thing has been happening too often to not even consider the possiblity. Willful blindness won't cut it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    And I doubt that there are as few racists as you seem to think. Remember, I was once one of them - I know whereof I speak. I once lived that life - including at college, since I attended at Mississippi State University over in Starkville. It is true that the college towns will be by nature more liberal than other areas...but only in comparison to the local cultural norms.

    No, quite the opposite - Ole Miss, like other colleges, will normally be more liberal than the local cultural norms...but if you knew Mississippi half as well as you seem to think you do, you'd know that "more liberal than the local cultural norms" ain't saying much at all.
    Uh huh.

    You're making the mistake of conflating Democratic v. Republican with Liberal v. Conservative...so I've got another story for you:

    One of our family acquaintances was a guy by the name of James O. Eastland. He was a U.S. senator for many years (my grandmother used to sell honest-to-goodness moonshine in his store) and he even offered to get me into the Naval Academy, which I declined - I somehow realized that I just wasn't ready for that, and I was right.

    Anyway, if you'll dig deeply into Sen. Eastland's story, you'll find that this particular senator (who was twice president pro tempore) was as conservative as they come - and for a generation, he was quite literally the most powerful racist in America - Google "White Citizens Council", which later became "Conservative Citizens Council". He was the driving force behind making those happen. And then there was his "Academy System" of schools to preserve segregation after the Civil Rights Act - and most of those academies are all-white even today...including Indianola Academy where I attended in 1976 - even today, IA is 100% white...in a 71% black county. Think about that.

    Yes, Eastland was a Democrat...and he was very, very conservative. You see, the South never really cared about being Democratic so much as they did about being Conservative...which is why the Democratic "Solid South" became the solid Republican base of today. Nixon understood this, which was why his "Southern Strategy" - wherein he would get the Souths "negrophobe vote" - would work to get him elected...and he was right.

    In other words, guy, just as I wouldn't presume to school you on Texas politics and Hispanic issues in Texas, don't try to school me on MS politics and African-American issues...because you're only showing just how much you don't know.
    LBJ was a racist and a segregationist, too. He never stopped being a racist, but he changed his tactics and ended up doing more damage to the black family and community than the fellow you mention would ever dream of doing. He could not have done more damage if he was trying, and I'm not altogether totally convinced he wasn't. Few people would say he was conservative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Far more than most these incidents turn out to be perpetrated by minorities themselves for political or sympathy reasons.

    They want to keep the lie of racism alive because it's a perfect excuse for them.....
    Victimhood is an identity too valuable to give up easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Right.

    Ole Miss is an institute of higher learning in the state of Mississippi.
    Thanks for that demonstration of liberal fairness, tolerance, and open mindedness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The constant attempts to tie the KKK to today's Democratic Party, as if either party resembles their name-only counterparts from 100 years ago, is laughably dishonest.
    Well, let's look at the evidence. Democrats still want to keep blacks dependent on them, they were dragged to welfare reform, which raised more blacks out of the ghetto than any other measure, kicking and screaming and now want to roll the reforms back. They still want to keep poor black kids and other poor kids in bad schools and don't want them to have any way out. (I mean to say, how evil can you get?) They want to eliminate a lot of starting level jobs by making them too expensive. They've made it nearly impossible for blacks or anyone else to reach independence by starting their own small businesses. Their economic policies have been a disaster for the black community. No, they aren't the same as the old Southern Democrats. They're worse. Who needs the KKK when you have the welfare state to destroy people, their families, and their communities?

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    Re: Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Sounds like a couple of assholes to me, regardless of their intent or motivation.
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    Re: Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Far more than most these incidents turn out to be perpetrated by minorities themselves for political or sympathy reasons.

    They want to keep the lie of racism alive because it's a perfect excuse for them.....
    A quick Google search will turn up nativity scenes vandalized every year. I bet it's the Christians themselves that do it, don't you?

    And Republicans sure were busy vandalizing Romney signs and making death threats...
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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The constant attempts to tie the KKK to today's Democratic Party, as if either party resembles their name-only counterparts from 100 years ago, is laughably dishonest.
    And yet pathetically it happens every time. I don't know what to say "Oh, you're right, I better get back to the white power slogans I've been learning from Al Sharpton."


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Since you came into the thread believing the OP to be a "known bull****ter" it would appear you drew a conclusion. You couldn't even hide it for two sentences.
    Well I know that from a lot more than this topic obviously, but I was specifically talking about the story behind this noose. I didn't make any conclusion about that, still havent yet.

    Mind blown?

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    Re: Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, without "white power!" , there wouldn't be any racism?
    racism is motivated by many things, Anger being one of them.
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    Re: Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    That figures since Democratic Party membership was required for KKK membership in those days. And no, those guys didn't run to the Republican party, they stayed where they were for the most part. They just changed tactics.
    REALLY? Would you like to show a reference for that? Because there was NO such requirement. Again, you're confusing Democratic/Republican with Liberal/Conservative. The South has ALWAYS been the most conservative part of the nation - Democratic for generations, Republican since the early 1970's...but ALWAYS strongly conservative.

    Sorry, but that sort of thing has been happening too often to not even consider the possiblity. Willful blindness won't cut it.
    Yeah, since there's no absolutely-concrete evidence for either side, it MUST be a false-flag operation, hm? Do you even see the disconnect there?

    LBJ was a racist and a segregationist, too. He never stopped being a racist, but he changed his tactics and ended up doing more damage to the black family and community than the fellow you mention would ever dream of doing. He could not have done more damage if he was trying, and I'm not altogether totally convinced he wasn't. Few people would say he was conservative.
    Yeah, he sure did a lot of damage by passing the Civil Rights Act, by ending segregation, huh? And how many of your fellow conservatives - particularly the old ones who are on Medicare - are willing to give up Medicare? And BTW, how about checking out this map showing which states' residents have the highest percentage of people on Welfare?

    30uptsp.jpg

    Frankly, it should be us blue-state liberals griping about having to support the takers in the red states.

    Victimhood is an identity too valuable to give up easily.
    Yeah, there's no segregation today, right? That's why last year was the first year that one town's high school prom wasn't segregated...and that's why an April 2011 poll showed that 46% of Mississippi Republicans STILL thought interracial marriages should be banned.

    Yeah, there's no racism today, huh?

    Well, let's look at the evidence. Democrats still want to keep blacks dependent on them, they were dragged to welfare reform, which raised more blacks out of the ghetto than any other measure, kicking and screaming and now want to roll the reforms back. They still want to keep poor black kids and other poor kids in bad schools and don't want them to have any way out. (I mean to say, how evil can you get?) They want to eliminate a lot of starting level jobs by making them too expensive. They've made it nearly impossible for blacks or anyone else to reach independence by starting their own small businesses. Their economic policies have been a disaster for the black community. No, they aren't the same as the old Southern Democrats. They're worse. Who needs the KKK when you have the welfare state to destroy people, their families, and their communities?
    Um, speaking of welfare states, did you happen to see the map above? Who is it that's keeping their populations on welfare? RED STATES.

    And FYI, who is it that wanted to cut funding for poorly-performing schools ("No Child Left Behind") instead of giving them the funding they need in order to improve? REPUBLICANS. Who is it that opposes busing to give poor kids a chance to go to better-funded schools? REPUBLICANS.

    Guy, when it comes to racism, you really, honestly, have no clue what you're talking about...and you're stuck so far inside the right-wing-media echo chamber that you don't even know that there is another side to the issues you're hearing about. I was one of you, once upon a time...but then I began seeing through what I was being told.

    It takes guts to force oneself to make a decision ONLY after honestly hearing both sides of the story...but that's what I did, and that's why I'm no longer a conservative.
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    Re: Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    That figures since Democratic Party membership was required for KKK membership in those days. And no, those guys didn't run to the Republican party, they stayed where they were for the most part.
    That of course explains those very red southern states. Honestly, this BS is right in line with those who try to use the fact that Lincoln was a republican, as if it really compares to the party today.

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    Re: Noose Found Around The Neck Of Statue Honoring Civil Rights Icon At Ole Miss

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    That of course explains those very red southern states. Honestly, this BS is right in line with those who try to use the fact that Lincoln was a republican, as if it really compares to the party today.
    Yes, well the Democrats still have blacks under their thumbs, dependent on them, beholden to them for everything. Just like the old days. I think blacks would have been much better off now if the new, modern, compassionate democratic party had never existed.

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