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    Re: 'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job

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    Samuel Wurzelbacher's encounter with Barack Obama gave some material to Republicans who were eager to brand the Illinois senator a socialist. Today, the man better-known as "Joe The Plumber" has himself a union job.

    It might seem like an odd fate for Wurzelbacher, whose status as a mini celebrity in the 2008 presidential race paved the way for a book deal and a failed congressional bid. A quick scan of his Facebook page makes it clear that he's still the same guy who said last year that America needs a "white Republican president again."


    'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job, Contemplates The Meaning Of 'Tea Bagger'

    I'm not sure which is funnier...

    That he works for a company that was bailed out, or that he's a union guy now.

    Either way, you can't make this **** up.
    Joe the dumber epitomizes all that is the tea party. Ignorant, angry, uneducated rabble that have barely a grasp on reality, but are more than willing to be hypocrites when it comes to their personal $$.
    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

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    Re: 'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    You do realize its possible and even logical to support private sector unions and oppose public sector unions right? Plus I opposed the bailout of GM but drive a Chevy. Neither makes either a hypocrite.
    More CON games- you never said 'show where he opposed PRIVATE SECTOR unions'.

    And while we are at it, what CON supports Unions which the CON game claims drives businesses out of a state/region/country????

    You are trying to peel the onion and not doing a very good job.

    Driving a vehicle is a far cry from WORKING there- again more CON games.

    I just have to admire the spin you attempt.

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    Re: 'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    You do realize its possible and even logical to support private sector unions and oppose public sector unions right?
    Round and round he goes....

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    Re: 'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    More CON games- you never said 'show where he opposed PRIVATE SECTOR unions'.

    And while we are at it, what CON supports Unions which the CON game claims drives businesses out of a state/region/country????

    You are trying to peel the onion and not doing a very good job.

    Driving a vehicle is a far cry from WORKING there- again more CON games.

    I just have to admire the spin you attempt.
    What are you talking about? Cant you follow a conversation? The guy joined a private sector union and was ridiculed for it. I asked for evidence that he ever spoke out against unions and none was provided. Plus, as I pointed out and you apparently didn't read, as a plumber it is likely he has been a member of a union before and unless he is going to freelance on his own, will likely need a union card to get hired. But I do get that you lefties cant grasp the fairly obvious distinction between a private sector union--which is what is and has been discussed throughout this entire thread--and a public sector union. Certain people, I guess, have the mental ability to make that distinction while other do not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Round and round he goes....
    Your inability to answer my one, single, direct question is why you have to resort to this kind of substance free response. Lets try this one more time. Where did he denounce unions? Since you haven't answered that question up to this point I am quite certain you wont answer it now. The truth is, what you and your leftist pals are doing is attacking a leftist caricature of this guy and the tea party--two things neither of you know anything about. Clearly that doesn't stop you from commenting, but it leaves you with nothing but substance-free remarks like the one above.

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    Re: 'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Did he come out against unions? Or did he just ask Obama a question?
    I suspect that if the guy has been a plumber all his life this isn't the first union he has ever been in.
    Plus it should be noted that not all union members are lock-step liberals. So whats your point here other than to slam a guy who had the gall to question the Messiah?



    "Joe the Plumber' was never a plumber.

    He was a plumber's helper.


    He wasn't in the union and he couldn't pull a permit.

    IOW- He was an undocumented wrench-turner who did what he was told to do and was happy to get a paycheck.
    Last edited by shrubnose; 02-19-14 at 08:44 AM.

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    Re: 'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    What re you talking about? Cant you follow a conversation? The guy joined a private sector union and was ridiculed for it. I asked for evidence that he ever spoke out against unions and non was provided. Plus, as I pointed out and you apparently didn't read, as a plumber it is likely he has been a member of a union before and unless he is going to freelance on his own, will likely need a union card to get hired. But I do get that you lefties cant grasp the fairly obvious distinction between a private sector union--which is what is and has been discussed throughout this entire thread--and a public sector union. Certain people, I guess, have the mental ability to make that distinction while other do not.
    What are you talking about? Can't you recall what you asked? You didn't ask about a particular Union, just Unions in general.

    Then when confronted with proof you are trying to peel the onion and claim well there is a difference between them (not when CONs are ranting about Unions there isn't )

    You asked, got an answer you didn't like and tried to spin it away... Just another CON game!

    You have ANY proof this loser was ever in a Union before? You demand proof but offer NONE yourself!

    Now you look past the fact this guy was the poster boy for private sector small business ownership(like he would ever own anything outright) and was loud and proud about one day owning the plumbing business his boss ran (as if) and now is sucking Union teat in a bailed out company...

    Some CONs have the mental capacity to know when to stop digging but most just keep at the shovel...

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    Re: 'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    "Joe the Plumber' was never a plumber.

    He was a plumber's helper.


    He wasn't in the union and he couldn't pull a permit.
    And to be a plumber he needed to join a union. That's kind of how things work in the trade industry. My nephew wanted to be an electrician, and though he wasn't thrilled with the idea had to join the electricians union. But did he speak out against the union in the past? Maybe you will answer this since the OP wont.

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    Re: 'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    What are you talking about? Can't you recall what you asked? You didn't ask about a particular Union, just Unions in general.

    Then when confronted with proof you are trying to peel the onion and claim well there is a difference between them (not when CONs are ranting about Unions there isn't )

    You asked, got an answer you didn't like and tried to spin it away... Just another CON game!

    You have ANY proof this loser was ever in a Union before? You demand proof but offer NONE yourself!

    Now you look past the fact this guy was the poster boy for private sector small business ownership(like he would ever own anything outright) and was loud and proud about one day owning the plumbing business his boss ran (as if) and now is sucking Union teat in a bailed out company...

    Some CONs have the mental capacity to know when to stop digging but most just keep at the shovel...
    Again, it is a quite rational stance to be opposed to public unions but support private unions. Since what was being discussed was a private sector union, that is the issue. The truth is, he apparently never spoke out against private sector unions so him joining one is not hypocritical in any way. So it is the OP, and you , who are engaged in games. Grow up.

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    Re: 'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    And to be a plumber he needed to join a union. That's kind of how things work in the trade industry. My nephew wanted to be an electrician, and though he wasn't thrilled with the idea had to join the electricians union. But did he speak out against the union in the past?
    Maybe you will answer this since the OP wont.



    Not my problem, and I'm not interested.

    A lot of people do what they have to do to survive on this planet.

    And a lot of others draft behind them.

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    Re: 'Joe The Plumber' Describes His New Union Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Again, it is a quite rational stance to be opposed to public unions but support private unions. Since what was being discussed was a private sector union, that is the issue. The truth is, he apparently never spoke out against private sector unions so him joining one is not hypocritical in any way. So it is the OP, and you , who are engaged in games. Grow up.
    Rational??? Then most CONs are quite irrational as they make NO distinction between public or private sector Unions, but again you yourself made no such distinction between private or public- ahhh until you was shown he did infact support gutting a Union's collective bargaining rights.

    You are trying to spin out of your own ignorance on the subject with a typical CON game.

    Time to grow up.

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