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    Re: U.S. Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index... Below Romania

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    Re: U.S. Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index... Below Romania

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Gitmo still open, drone strikes on any country he pleases, assassinating Americans without trial, less press freedom....

    Is this what most Americans who voted for Obama were expecting?
    Nope! I think they were expecting better.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index... Below Romania

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    Gitmo still open, drone strikes on any country he pleases, assassinating Americans without trial, less press freedom....Is this what most Americans who voted for Obama were expecting?
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    Nope! I think they were expecting better.
    He's doing all those things the Reps loved GDubya for doing, and still they give him s***. There's no pleasing some people.
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    Re: U.S. Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index... Below Romania

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I just love it though. CalGun said I was an extremist liberal because I won't believe the claims of a group made up of liberals. Trolls have gotten more and more desperate lately.
    It's all relative. If you're backed up against your goal line, midfield looks a long way away. You are probably lined up around the opposite 30, so from his perspective, it's just all the same.

    Now, just go out and join some nut job survivalist militia and all will be forgiven.......well, maybe.
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    Re: U.S. Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index... Below Romania

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Regarding the US, it has to do with this being a French organization taking up for Snowden and Assange, and even the traitor Manning.
    That's flat-out CT. They're claiming that his sentence is the result of the suppression of whistle-blowers and not because he broke laws.
    You're absolutely right. Freedom of the press does not allow for the release of secret government documents. If the US were to criticize France for charging someone under the same circumstances within their country they'd have a hissy. There is no reason to take what the French say seriously, but that does not mean there is not a problem in the Superpower.

    While the US MSM is among the worst in the free world it's largely because of the self censorship, the lack of depth, little international reporting apart from photo and the seeming disinterest in hard news. When the antics of Justin Beiber are classed as New Flashes then it's clear what takes precedence. The British media is no better, btw.

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    Re: U.S. Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index... Below Romania

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    He's doing all those things the Reps loved GDubya for doing, and still they give him s***. There's no pleasing some people.
    I don't think repubs have a problem with Gitmo being open. They have a problem with the president blatantly going back on his word.

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    Re: U.S. Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index... Below Romania

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    He's doing all those things the Reps loved GDubya for doing, and still they give him s***. There's no pleasing some people.
    Very true. But that's the way when people are partisans before they are Americans.
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    Re: U.S. Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index... Below Romania

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Very true. But that's the way when people are partisans before they are Americans.
    The difference is that one lied about Gitmo and the other didn't It has nothing to d with partisanship.

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    Re: U.S. Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index... Below Romania

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The difference is that one lied about Gitmo and the other didn't It has nothing to d with partisanship.
    What do you mean there Grant.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: U.S. Plunges To 46th In World Press Freedom Index... Below Romania

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What is bull**** is this nationalistic arrogance going on in the US. It blinds you all from the real truth that media organisations like MSNBC and Fox News, Newscorp and other media empires are a large part of the problem. Add to that the US government treatment of journalists and sources and your ranking is well deserved. There is nothing "free" about the US media landscape.. they are utterly biased and blind to anything happening outside the US.
    This is increasingly irrelevant with the prevalence of the internet. The more important aspect of press freedom is the ability to gather information for public consumption and the ability to freely express opinions without fear of legal retribution. Of those two, I think the first is becoming increasingly difficult in America and the second is still in a very good place. We don't have highly interpretive laws about hate speech, for instance, while many countries do.
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