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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'Former Congressman Ron Paul has launched a petition to attempt to garner clemency for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden. The "Demand Clemency for Edward Snowden" petition includes the clip below, Paul calls on supporters to sign the petition in an attempt to bring Snowden home to the US safely before his temporary visa in Russia expires in July.

    On the heels of his son Rand Paul's lawsuit against the Obama nd the NSA seeking to stop its collection of phone metadata, Ron Paul states "Edward Snowden shocked the world when he exposed the NSA’s illegal and abusive spying program. Instead of applauding him for his bravery and patriotism, the U.S. government labels Snowden a traitor."

    By signing this petition, Paul notes on his Channel's website, "you are telling the US government that Mr. Snowden deserves the right to come home without the fear of persecution or imprisonment."'

    Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden | Zero Hedge
    A worthy move, though I am not sure whether it will work or not. Even if it did, if I were Snowden, I would not return regardless the promises of safety, and instead take the 1 million dollar prize he will no doubt earn from the win of the Noble Prize this year and live well writing and speaking throughout Europe.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    where should a citizens loyalty be?

    to federal law, or constitutional law?
    Odd question, if you're referring to the US Constitution. Federal law must conform to the constitution.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by jog View Post
    odd question, if you're referring to the us constitution. Federal law must conform to the constitution.
    very true.....but some have the ideal federal should be above constitutional.

    Meaning.... If you swear to federal law, this some how binds you to be silent if constututional violations are taking place.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    very true.....but some have the ideal federal should be above constitutional.

    Meaning.... If you swear to federal law, this some how binds you to be silent if constututional violations are taking place.
    People that think the government is allowed to violate the Constitution are are the enemy.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    To those whom he worked with.....and to his Country.
    So let me get this straight. If your wife were cheating on you, and your best friend came to you and told you he saw her with another man, you would call him a traitor and want his head? Why would you not blame the person who actually betrayed you instead of the one that informed you of that betrayal?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Tell that to future americans who will be harmed by Snowden's treason .
    Yep, now that we know the extent the NSA was spying on Americans, we are all in grave danger. That makes sense. Do you have any proof that anyone has been hurt because we know they've been intercepting our emails and phone calls? You're trying to incite a panic that isn't there.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Why don't you talk about all of the Americans who have been negatively affected overseas by the traitor?
    Do you have any idea how much we have been compromised?
    This continuation of leeks goes light years beyond letting you know about your phone data.
    No go back and focus on your NSA faux outrage .
    Why don't you cite some specific cases where Americans overseas have been harmed by Snowden's leaks? I'm trying to understand your reasoning but I can't. What's it like to not give a flying rat's ass what the government does in your name? They can do whatever they want, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'Former Congressman Ron Paul has launched a petition to attempt to garner clemency for NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden. The "Demand Clemency for Edward Snowden" petition includes the clip below, Paul calls on supporters to sign the petition in an attempt to bring Snowden home to the US safely before his temporary visa in Russia expires in July.

    On the heels of his son Rand Paul's lawsuit against the Obama nd the NSA seeking to stop its collection of phone metadata, Ron Paul states "Edward Snowden shocked the world when he exposed the NSA’s illegal and abusive spying program. Instead of applauding him for his bravery and patriotism, the U.S. government labels Snowden a traitor."

    By signing this petition, Paul notes on his Channel's website, "you are telling the US government that Mr. Snowden deserves the right to come home without the fear of persecution or imprisonment."'

    Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden | Zero Hedge
    I'm glad there are some politicians out there that give a **** about the constitution and about protecting our rights. The statists in this thread are so upset that their paternalistic overlords have had their power weakened by 1%, that they're demanding blood.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Ron Paul doing something stupid? How shocking...

    I am not into letting probable criminals getting off without persecution. I am a law and order type.
    I am surprised of your support for Bush's Patriot Act. I'll put you into the Bush supporter column.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    President Lincoln's "The truth shall set you free" is now "The truth shall cause your imprisonment" in the new hyper-paranoid Amerika.

    At what point was freedom and truth replaced with protect the homeland at all costs?

    Liberal ideals of civil and human rights actually is pretty much dead in this country, though people still use the word. "Liberal" now means socialism and "progressive" means corporate socialism. There is very little tolerance for true "liberalism" in the USA, nor for true conservatism, in terms of individual rights.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, seems Snowden was an enemy to his friend who he used to steal information from......causing his buddy's life to be totally destroyed too Since he discovered that Snowden his pal was using him and password to access more than what Snowden was assigned to.

    How would you feel if your buddy who you worked with. Set you up to take the fall with him?
    Lies are not persuasive. He came forward specifically so no one else took the blame.

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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I am surprised of your support for Bush's Patriot Act. I'll put you into the Bush supporter column.
    Holy ****ing stupid post. I support laws against theft, and laws against espionage. Stealing classified information and releasing it for political gain is illegal and should be illegal. My view has nothing to do with the Patriot Act, which has some good and bad.
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    Re: Ron Paul Launches Clemency Petition For Edward Snowden

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Government has been spying on us and everyone else forever.
    Good thing they were spying on Russia and Cuba when we found their nukes 90 miles from our shores.
    Rand Paul wants a "new Republican party", in today's news.
    DEM liberals who buy his garbage on drones, NSA, Clinton/Lewinsky are unwittingly part of this "AMASH" coalition .
    Few Democrats in DC are "liberal." Most pretend to be economic socialists, but actually are corporate socialists. However, virtually none are liberal.

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